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Season 2 Episode 7 Tony Jacobsen

Season 2 Episode 7 Tony Jacobsen

Tony Jacobsen is an adaptive fitness coach, motivational speaker, author of two transformative books, and a certified NASM personal trainer. Born with Osteogenesis Imperfecta (O.I.), also known as Brittle Bones Disease, Tony empowers individuals to...

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Season 2

Tony Jacobsen is an adaptive fitness coach, motivational speaker, author of two transformative books, and a certified NASM personal trainer. Born with Osteogenesis Imperfecta (O.I.), also known as Brittle Bones Disease, Tony empowers individuals to overcome limitations, get moving, and live healthier, more fulfilling lives. Through his coaching programs, books, and vibrant personality, Tony is on a mission to inspire resilience and positivity while fostering an #UNBREAKABLE mindset. Learn more at https://www.tonyjacobsen.com.

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What's up, everybody, there's another episode of bull I've Uncensored,

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Season two, Episode seven. Today, I have with me hashtag unbreakable.

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You bet you, mister Tony Jacobson personal trainer extraordinary and

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also oh uh Asian with OI. So we're going to

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talk about that today. Tony, how are you good? Good?

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What up? What up? Hello everybody. It's good to be

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here today.

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Glad to have you. Yeah. So, Tony, tell me a

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little bit about your lie journey when you were diagnosed,

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et cetera.

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Yeah, my OI journey started in the warm summer of

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nineteen seventy one when I was born pretty much. You know,

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I wasn't diagnosed until I was about sixteen months old,

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somewhere around there. You know, I had a few breaks

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leading up to that, broke it, you know, broke one

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femur and then had that cast. It came back like

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six months later after breaking the other one. And then

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that's when the doctors and everybody were questioning what was happening.

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And fortunately for me, there was a doctor. This was

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in Los Angeles, That's where I'm from. So luckily there

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was a doctor at LA Children's Hospital who knew the

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signs and was like, oh yeah, let's have a look

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and see if he might have OI, and hence I

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was diagnosed at that point. So yeah, it's been I

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like to call it, you know, I just kind of

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briefly call it the OI FAB four, which is the

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type I have OI Type one. I've had about seventy

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ish seventy five ish breaks throughout my life, twelve surgeries,

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and I have steel metal rods in both femurs and

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both tibias. So yeah, and I used a wheelchair when

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I was a kid, went to crutches in my teens,

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and started walking in my early twenties.

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That's fantastic. Yeah, No, it's funny because I'm a type

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of type two. I know, like back in our day,

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the FAB four, as you say, were you know, kind

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of the standard. And now we've got almost eight types documented.

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Oh there's so many.

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Oh it's insane that I don't even know what the

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hell I am anymore.

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And it's true that there's so much overlap of the

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types now, I mean, I know it depends on the

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DNA the actual DNA string, but there is so many,

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so much overlap in the severities, so you never know

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where you're gonna fall.

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Yep, So I too have titanium in both my femurs

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and tuvus upper and lower leg. For those of you

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that don't know all the medical jargon out there, I

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apologize like sound like we're talking in code, but I

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promise you were not. So. Yeah. So I was diagnosed

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with birth in nineteen eighty eighty eight out here in Massachusetts.

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And you know, they didn't know anything was wrong until

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they wanted to do an ulder sound that my mother

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after her water broke. I ended up being breach and

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I had fourteen breaks at birth. Oh my gosh, had

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both times and seven ribs and they broke my collarbone.

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Take me out. Wow. So I had a rough start, Yeah,

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a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, but

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you know, you know, just.

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Just even being somewhat of a type too. You know,

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it's good you're here because you know that's the one

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that they say isn't gonna make it.

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So yeah, that's uh, it's crazy. Like you know, I

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didn't really find out, not that anything was withheld from

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me per se, but this wasn't something my parents talked

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about all that much. But now that I'm thirty six

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going on thirty seven, Uh, you know, we've had those

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conversations and hard talks and you know, knock on wood,

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thank God. Like I'm really reasonably in good health all

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things considered. You know, we'll share Brown. I don't see

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that changing anytime soon. But uh, you know, for those

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that watched the show or listen to the show, and yeah,

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well know, i'm you know, concert promoter, and I also

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play it in a heavy metal band. So that's pretty

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bad as I think, at least that's what I've been

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told anyway. So how did you end up getting into

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being a personal trainer? I mean, you know, oh, I

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folks have our limitations obviously, but was that kind of

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due to your own frustration of trying to get any

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physical assistance with h you know, bettering your physique?

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Yeah, I mean my personal story really came because I

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went through like my own personal transformation later on in

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life too. So, you know, because of the OI, I

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was very much not an active person, you know, which

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most oires aren't. And so even when I started walking

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on my own in my early twenties, I was still

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being very careful and I didn't want to break any

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more bones, so I didn't move and my health declined.

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So over the next twenty years it even got worse.

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So coming up on my fortieth birthday, I was in

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the worst health that I had ever been and just

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beyond the OI you know, I hadn't broken many bones

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between twenty and forty, but I was still just you know,

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suffering all the consequences of everything. So in addition to that,

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I was overweight, you know, facing like chronic fatigue, chronic pain,

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all the good stuff, you know, all the fun stuff.

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And so when I was coming up on my fortieth

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I was like, you know, really in bad shape, and

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I started kind of thinking about doing something, but I

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just couldn't get there, you know, because I was still

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dealing with a lot of stuff that was oh I

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related as far as mentally right, all my mental blocks,

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and so when I was but when I turned forty one,

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I ended up going to the doctor because I had

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pain in my stomach and he was like, well, let

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me do an EKG on you to test your heart,

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and so he did that and he told me that

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I might have had a small heart attack. So at

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that point, the good news is I didn't have a

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heart attack. That's first of all. The second of all,

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it ends up. I have a bicuspit valve, a order valve.

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That's why I was kind of reading the way that

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it did. But it was basically that incident that made

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me realize I needed to do something because I was like, well,

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this isn't gonna fly. I need to do something because

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you know, I don't want to die young, and I

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want to get in some sort of better shape for myself.

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I want to do things I haven't ever done. So

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for me, that was the point when everything changed. I

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had to start, you know, really doing the mental work

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of figuring out how to work with the OI to

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start exercising, and you know, I at that point I

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hired a personal trainer, and so it was a it

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was a great move on my part. He was really cool.

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He he understood, he learned about a why, he worked

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with me in the right way, and you know, over

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the course of like eight months, I got healthier than

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I had ever been. So I went through a full transformation.

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I lost a lot of weight. I dropped a lot

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of weight. I ended up running, I ended up jumping.

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I ended up doing like really like big physical things

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that I had never done before. Yeah, it was like

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I couldn't believe it. It was really like a huge moment.

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I talked about it in my book and that was

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like kind of the impetus for me to say, you know,

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what I've been through was it feels really good. I

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know it's very important what I was able to accomplish,

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and I want to be able to share this with others.

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So that's why I wrote my first book, disab Your Disability.

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Kind of was like, well, now I have a story

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to tell, So I'm going to tell this story and

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I'm going to help as much as I can, not

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only my fellow a Wires, but just anybody that is

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dealing with the physical discs ability. So through that I

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wrote the book and actually I got my certification to

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be a trainer before that because as I was coming

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out of my transformation, you know, I knew I wanted

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to help and I wanted to do it the right way.

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So I wanted to get the training. I wanted to

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you know, know, how to really do what I could

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do and do it officially. So that's when I went

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and got my certification and did all the training and

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you know, really stepped into the world of personal training.

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And it started with the Wires and then kind of

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started branching out to other people with other disabilities and

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ever since then. That was two thousand and fifteen, I

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think when I first got my So just coming up

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on ten years this year, I just congratulations.

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Yeah for sure. No, wh when I was surfing through

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the OLIF message board or whatever on Facebook, I saw

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your post for your book or disabled your disability. And

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that's always kind of the mentality I've always had in general,

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you know, being in Massachusetts and Central mass I was

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kind of a big fish in a small pond, shall

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we say, when it came to ah in my areas.

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So I didn't have a ton of friends with it

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growing up. So I kind of learned how to live

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in spite of my situation. And you know, my parents

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always gave me a very can't do mentality, and you know,

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if it was unsafe, and we were like, you know, Josh,

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you know, cut the shit, it's not a good idea, right,

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you know. It was all kind of common sense based,

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and I was really lucky to have the support system

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I did in my younger years growing up as a kid,

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you know, I know, we all kind of have different

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severities and whatnot. Did you deal with a lot of

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you know, getting picked on at school or anything like that,

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or were kids pretty decent.

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No, I had my fair share. I had my fair

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share of bullies and kids that didn't understand. And you know,

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now now that I'm wiser and more seasoned, I understand

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that they're just they don't know, they just don't know

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what to do, right, But back then, it was really

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painful and hurtful. And you know, I spent a lot

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of time as O wires. I see that through line

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that we spend a lot of time on our own, right.

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We we really days being laid up, either in the

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hospital or at home, in casts and all that great stuff.

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So I spent a lot of time alone. When I did,

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you know, go to school, I had I had friends

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that had other disabilities too, which was great. I only

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knew one other person with OI and then we lost contact,

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and then I didn't talk to anybody else with OI

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until I was in my forties. But yeah, going through

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my childhood, it was very much me just trying to

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deal with it on my own. And you know, there's

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two camps in the OI world. I feel where either

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the parents are very much maybe like your parents, where

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they're like, yeah, just go and do it, man, Just

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you know, do what you gotta do. And then you

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have parents like mine who were like, don't do anything.

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They careful, don't move. And I have type one, which

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is mild, right, and so I had but I had

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enough breaks early on to concern my parents. Of course,

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I was having like most of my breaks in those

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first like five six years, so I can I know

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why they were like that, but they were that way.

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They wrapped me in bubble, They told me don't do anything.

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They were very protective of me. So you know, there's

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those two camps. So I definitely was brought up in

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the breaking is a bad thing, don't do it, avoid

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it at all costs, right. Yeah.

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Now, it was just quite the contrast from growing up

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in that kind of an environment to you know, pushing

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your physical limits and you know, getting into the shape

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that you got in later in the life. Yeah, what

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was that like for you? Like? Mentally, man, it was.

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It changed my entire life. Like I literally feel like

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I'm living a second life ever since my transformation, because

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it's you know, I talk about it in the book too,

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and there's a story I share about my mom. I

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don't want to spoil it for anybody that's gonna read

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the book, because it's a great story. But I can

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just say that, you know, the perception of everyone around

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me and how they perceived me prior transformation. Put it

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that way, everything changed, you know. So it had a

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significant change in how I operate in the world. And

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so not only for myself, but it was for everybody

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around me too, my wife, my kids, like my friends,

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people that have known me all my life. You know,

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they're like, wow, I mean this is it's like you're

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a totally different person Tony and I and I am

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a totally different person. I totally feel like I don't

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have the same mentality. I don't have the same thoughts.

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I'm much more outgoing, I don't have the same fears

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around they stuff, especially, I'm just more mindful of how

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I move. So there's a lot of a lot of

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different things mentally and emotionally. It feels great, like I'm

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much happier just not being in pain every day. That

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that alone is awesome. The fact that I can do

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things that I wouldn't have ever thought about doing before,

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that's awesome too, because then I you know, it opens

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up my world and so it's those things that I

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want to help other people with. That's why I'm like

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doing my coaching and really trying to help people get

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really put put their health as a priority. Because as

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soon as you do that, like when I did that,

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my whole life changed for the better.

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So no, absolutely, anytime anyone can focus on there will

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be before anything else that I always ended up being

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worth it in the long run. I think a lot

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of people will underestimate that. So I'm curious because I

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have not had any personal trainer work with me so far.

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I've done free weights off and on from my twenties onward.

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I'd say once I hit thirty, I kind of got

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out of shape and put on some weight, and just

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within the last years or two I started on a

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carnival diet and have been able to shed them back

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down to eighty five pounds, which is good for me.

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My top way was more all three, so being three

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foot three with olive at one hundred and three pounds

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no good. And so you know, like I said, it

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was just kind of one of those things that I

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had to find something that was low impact enough to

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get the weight off so that I could move enough

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to actually start working out again, and it's still kind

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of a we're working progress, but I definitely feel a

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hell of a lot better. So for somebody in our situation,

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you can give me like a small, like a basic overview.

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What sort of things do you recommend pro white patients

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for just basic either weight training or mobility or what

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have you.

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just be clear on that. I can give some general ideas,

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but you know, anybody who's watching or listening, you know,

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of course, consult with your doctor before anything. I gotta

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like say that, but you know, like like with you,

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I think the number one thing to do is start

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to look at what you eat first. So anybody dealing

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with any weight to issue or any even before you

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begin to exercise, you know, really it all starts in

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the kitchen. It all starts with your nutrition, because those

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two things will not only dictate how you're you know,

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how much, how many calories you're taken in, but also,

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like you said, you want to get to a point

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where you feel you can exercise. So a lot of

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people who are just overweight, they'll just start exercising, but

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they don't change their diet or it's a very slow change,

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and then they get burnt out. Yeah, they just don't

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have the energy. They're not eating for working out, they're

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not eating for exercise. So number one is really start

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to look at your food number one. Number two you

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got to just start moving. And there's no you don't

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have to wait necessarily for that, but you want to

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start slow. You want to start with something simple. You

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want to get your but you want to kind of

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study your body and your functions and look for a trainer,

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you know, contact me, let's talk about it, because like

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those are the things where people just kind of you know,

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look for stuff maybe on social media or they go

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on YouTube, and they end up trying to do moves

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that they see and those aren't adaptive and they're not modified.

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So you know, our bodies don't move like that. Even

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for me, I have Type one, I still have like

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mobility issues, so I can't do all the exercises like

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I see someone doing it that maybe doesn't have those issues, right,

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So what happens is a lot of people just kind

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of go in and just start trying to do stuff.

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you start too too much, then you're gonna hurt yourself,

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number one, And that's the first thing we want to avoid.

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And the second thing is you're gonna just get burnt out.

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So you got to have a program, You got to

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have some sort of guidance because like for me, I know,

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there was a couple times during my like twenties when

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I worked out with a friend and he didn't know

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how to tell me how to train, and so I

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remember I hurt myself one time, and another time I

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think I worked out for like two weeks and I

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burnt out and never went back. So those are the

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things that happen regardless if you have a disability. But

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with dealing with the disability especially, oh why there's considerations.

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You want to make sure you're progressing into the right

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intensity of workout, got to make sure that you're eating right,

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and you know, everybody's different. Everybody's different, so it just

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depends on where you're at. So if you use a chair,

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if you're able to walk around, all those factors kind

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of come into play. But you just got to take

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it slow. Look for a trainer who knows what they're doing,

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who's willing to kind of learn and talk with you

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instead of just like trying to make you do stuff. Yeah,

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and that's kind of the I would say, that's a

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good foundational way to approach it.

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Oh, that certainly seems practical for me. Yeah. Yeah. So

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obviously you put a book out and doing plenty of

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podcasting and whatnot. Do you have any other personal goals

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right now? They are working toward?

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Well, gosh, right now. The big thing is my coaching business.

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So you know, I just launched recently at the end

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of last year, the Stronger Bones coaching group. So for

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the last like ten years, it's been off and on

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as far as what I've been doing with coaching. So

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I've been doing like one on one stuff. I do

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a lot of virtual because you know, all wires are

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all around the world, so I deal with people and

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other people that have disabilities too, So it really has

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opened my reach as far as who I'm working with.

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So I do a lot of virtual stuff. And I

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was doing one on one and then I built a

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platform that was kind of membership. It's called Unbreakable Body,

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and you know, some people joined that and people were

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coming and going, but it was really a self guided

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kind of thing. So coming into last year, I was like,

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you know, what, I want to do more personalized, but

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I need to put it in a framework that works

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for everybody, especially so I could deliver it to more people.

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So I said, well, let me do a group coaching.

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So Stronger Bones Coaching Group was born throughout last year

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and I launched it at the end of twenty twenty four,

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and that's really my focus for this year as far

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as growth for the business and to do more coaching. It's,

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you know, basically the programs set up to where you

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come in. You get access to a weekly I do

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a live workout every Monday that's virtual on Zoom, and

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so you get access to that. You get access to

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all the replays of all the workouts. We do a

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group coaching call every single month, so everybody gets personalized training.

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So I, you know, basically I'm guiding everybody and giving

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them giving them specific things to do. I have workout

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calendars that I that I give to people depending on

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their abilities and what their goals are. And I do

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a pod member's on my podcast. In there, I do

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motivational stuff. So there's a lot lot of things involved

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in the Stronger Bones Coaching group, but the main thing

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is that keeping you consistent, keeping and keeping you accountable

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so that you really show up and you do it,

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because that's been the biggest thing that I've seen that

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people need the most, you know. So the big goal

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right now is to continue building Stronger Bones coaching group

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Unbreakable Body. I'm working on my third book now because

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I put out my second book last year, which was

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Advice to Be Unbreakable, and so I've started writing the

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third book now. So my goal was for this year

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on that one, but we'll see how that goes. And yeah,

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and I continue to do music. I'm a DJ, so

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I'm out night and I and I play a do

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a live show every week online and yeah, so it's

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like as far as goals right now, those are those

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are the big things that are kind of happening.

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Right Yeah. So the Unbreakable Bones that you said is

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like a subscription online.

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Yeah, Unbreakable Body, Unbreakable Body. Yeah, so that's like a membership.

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So uh, basically it's like two tiers. So Unbreakable Body

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is kind of like the self guided portion of the

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training where you can go in and it's just a

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monthly membership. Uh. And then Stronger Bones coaching groups takes

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it a step up to where you get the personal training. Now,

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now you're getting the group coaching call. Now you're getting

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you know, the live workouts every single week. So you know,

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it's just added benefits and and and more features in

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that in that program, but both in monthly subscriptions. Yep.

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So would you like how how would you say your

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program would differ from say, you know, if somebody was

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I got a PT script or something like that to

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go to physical therapy and whatnot. Are there much different

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from that? Yeah?

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For sure. My my coaching and programming like is the

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the step after you get out of PT. So it's like,

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you know, you go to PT and they're giving you

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you know, really it's just a different program. They're just

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trying to get you to start moving and get your whatever.

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Maybe you know, you had an injury or you had

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a surgery, so they're just they'll actually put their hands

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on you and move your your limbs and whatnot, and

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they're gonna give you certain exercises to do. But my

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program is a step above that. So it's like now

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you're gonna move on your own. Now you're gonna do

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a little bit more intense Now you're going to start

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to progress so that you can start to get stronger,

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and you know, so that's kind of where I where

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I come in. And then and then the main thing

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is that it's fun. So like when you come and

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do my program, you get you get to train with me.

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I'm gonna be your coach, and I make all the

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workouts fun. So it's not gonna be you know, just like, Okay,

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do ten reps of these leg extensions, like you know,

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and you're doing it with other people too, Like in

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the live workout of the room, it's called the energy Elevator,

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So you know, there's music I'm doing, I'm doing all

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sorts of different exercises and we're just having fun. We're

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just having fun. And so it's not just you know, okay, guys,

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ten reps of a bicep curl like you know, it's

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it's different. So yeah, that's kind of how that's kind

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of the difference that I'm that bridge, I'm that step

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after PT.

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Okay, that's certainly paints a clear picture I think of

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what folks can expect. So other than doing the Unbreakable Body,

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programing your books or whatnot, are there other shows that

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you do or you know, specific podcast you go on

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other than you know, gracings with your presence here.

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Yeah, I mean, you know, I try and keep the

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podcast schedule consistent, you know, wherever I can jump on

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and and share about my books, and share about the coaching,

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share about my DJing. I go on all different types

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of podcasts, which is great because I you know, I

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love to talk music. I've been involved in music my

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entire life, so you know, I do that. I've been

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involved with you know, acting in the entertainment industry, you know,

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in front of him behind the camera. So I I'll

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show up on shows like that, you know, wherever I

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can like you know, find that in to just kind

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of talk about it, you know, fellow aires that have shows.

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It's like, let's go, you know. So I'm doing a

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lot of advocacy for the OI community also. So right now,

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I'm currently a board member of the OIF Great. So,

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like I'm on the board. I just started last year,

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and that's a that's a big step too for me

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because I've been doing like for the past gosh, I

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don't know, maybe like four or five years. I wanted

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to do more for the community beyond like the training

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and the coaching. So I started doing different events that

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I call the OI Life Events. And so through that work,

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I started doing a monthly meeting called the OI Life Group,

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and so it's still going on. It's like going on

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two and a half years now, and so it's great

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because I'm being able to provide a different kind of

466
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space for the OI community where it's not so it's

467
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.400
not so medical based, like, it's more lifestyle like it's

468
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.200
just for a place for Wires to come and like

469
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.640
hang out and we have this common thread that it's OI,

470
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.440
but we're not necessarily talking about just that. We're talking

471
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:34.839
about like kind of everything that's happening in life. So

472
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.279
I've got OI Life and I do groups, and I've

473
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:39.799
got the YouTube channel for that, and that's that's been

474
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.880
going really strong. Where I do I do interviews with

475
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.000
the wires there by the way we should do one

476
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:49.319
for the Life channel, and you know, I do different videos,

477
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:55.200
educational stuff, just informational things, lifestyle things on that channel

478
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.799
and that's been a lot of fun. So anywhere where

479
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:03.680
I can like really spread the message of of you know, music, music,

480
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:05.640
movement and motivation, that's what I like to call like

481
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.440
my mix show. It's called the Unbreakable Mix Show, and

482
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.799
so that's what it's all about. So anywhere where I

483
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.440
can go and kind of plug in those elements is

484
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.759
are the things that I do. So I'm DJ in

485
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.839
every week, I'm you know, promoting the books, I'm doing

486
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:23.599
the coaching and you know, helping the OI community where

487
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.240
I can. So you know, I keep the plate full.

488
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.559
I keep the plate full, and we just kind of

489
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:29.480
we do it up.

490
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.799
Yeah, I mean it seems like a common thread with

491
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.799
those of us with oh, we seem to be multitesters

492
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.960
on certain levels when it comes to at least the

493
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:45.079
ambitious ones. You know, like I said, I do concert

494
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.119
stuff like playing a band. I do the ploodcast. So

495
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:54.319
obviously the plodcasts started right around covid when obviously it

496
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:56.759
wasn't gigging and all that, and I just wanted to

497
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:02.400
maintain contact in the business and entertainment world like you

498
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.880
just said. You know, I haven't had the opportunity to

499
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:09.160
get up to LA or anything like that yet, but

500
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:14.119
I've done some indie stuff around here and whatnot off

501
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.319
and on, so I enjoy that as well. Tell me

502
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:21.720
about your music influences, like what do you gravitate towards

503
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:27.839
besides the DJ end. Well, my music career started like

504
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:33.160
in my teens. I was a drummer to start, so yeah,

505
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:38.119
that was like my first foray into music. I've always

506
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.079
had rhythms, so like I kind of think that was

507
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.839
my thing, getting into drumming and then playing some guitar,

508
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.839
some keyboard, mostly from by ear. I never really was

509
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.960
formally trained on anything, but once I was exposed to

510
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.640
hip hop, then that was kind of it.

511
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.119
That's when my and that was around my teens, you know,

512
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.519
so it was really the formidable year where when hip

513
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.519
hop really started to come into play, and so I

514
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:09.680
gravitated towards that. I started DJing and producing and rapping

515
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:13.119
and being an MC, so like that was kind of

516
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:18.839
where everything headed in my teens. And so yeah, for gosh,

517
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.920
for many years, I did a lot of MCing, I

518
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.599
did a lot of production, a lot of producing on

519
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.680
my own songs, worked with a lot of people, and

520
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.640
you know, put out a lot of indie records. And

521
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.759
then most recently when I met my wife, even later on,

522
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.440
we got together and we started an indie hip hop

523
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.599
group called Dynamite Jive, and so we put out three

524
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.519
independent records and a single. Our last single was twenty eleven.

525
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:47.720
But we did the whole thing.

526
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:47.920
Man.

527
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.640
All through the early two thousands, we put out records,

528
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:56.839
we were touring around the Southwest doing our things. So yeah,

529
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.200
and then through all that, I was DJing no matter what.

530
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:01.839
Like I was, you know, professionally DJing clubs in LA

531
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.559
back in ninety six ninety seven. That's when I started.

532
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.279
So that was a big bloomer area, you know, like

533
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:12.319
you said, with Hiplop and yeah, California, Like it wasn't

534
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.799
exactly my demographic, but i mean obviously everybody knew it

535
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.440
was going on in the nineties and too black and

536
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.960
all that. Yeah, exactly, time to get into that. That's great.

537
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.680
Yeah, So I've been djaying and since then, I've been djy.

538
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.119
So I've you know, just always had a steady, kind

539
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:33.839
of steady gig of just DJing wherever I can because

540
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.319
I just love it. It's it's at that point now

541
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.799
where I just love to play. You know, Before it

542
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.920
was like more money based and I was like doing

543
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.519
gigs to get paid. But you know, eventually it got

544
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:46.799
to a point where I'm like, man, I just want

545
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:49.319
to play. I just want to spend So I play

546
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.759
all different genres of music. My heart is in like

547
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.039
hip hop, R and B stuff, especially like Golden Era, right,

548
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.319
you know, hip hop, R and B. But I like everything.

549
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.799
I love all types of music, So you'll catch me

550
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:04.640
playing all sorts of things in the mix show.

551
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:10.440
Nice. Yeah, I definitely a DJ is. I wouldn't say

552
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.319
it lost art form, but it's definitely special.

553
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:17.160
Yeah. Yeah, And there's uh, you know, it's kind of

554
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.480
anybody can do it now, but you know, it takes

555
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.079
It's about the music, you know, it's about the music

556
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:24.960
and really how you're kind of putting things together. And

557
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:26.759
there's so many different again, there's like a lot of

558
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.000
genres of DJing, a lot of different types of DJs

559
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.200
and producers and all that stuff. And I've seen it evolve,

560
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.799
you know, from you know, working on turntables. I still

561
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:41.400
have my turntables and they're back there right there, and

562
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:43.319
so you know, I'll pull them out and I'll play

563
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.519
on those once in a while too. But you know,

564
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.599
I just love watching DJs, listening to DJ's play, and

565
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.519
it's a it's an art form that you can do

566
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.559
no matter how old you are, you know, I feel

567
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.119
like it's hip hop's are very kind of like as

568
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.400
an MC, it was a very young person's game. But

569
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.480
you know, with DJing, I was watching DJ's play until

570
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.160
you know, they're they're much older, and so it's inspiring

571
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:11.960
for me because I'm like, yeah, I'm just gonna keep playing.

572
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.000
I don't care, like I'm gonna do this until I'm done,

573
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:15.599
you know what I mean.

574
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:19.400
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly how I feel about. You know,

575
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.559
I've been playing guitar for shit now, twenty five years

576
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:28.799
plus and you know, just starting to get to the

577
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.640
I wouldn't say pro level, but we're just slightly below

578
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.920
that at this point on a Dye label and all

579
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.279
that fun stuff. So that's awesome scratching the surface of

580
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:44.440
after fifteen years in the music business things that are just

581
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.200
starting to open up now. So it's just one of

582
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:48.680
those things. You got to stay the course.

583
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.160
Yeah, you gotta keep going. Yep, Are is your goal

584
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.880
to to get? Are you gonna stay Indy or are

585
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.920
you looking to like move to a bigger label type thing?

586
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.279
I mean, ideally, you know, it's for me, it's all

587
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.720
about kind of breaking through the last soiling and getting

588
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.360
out of the system. And not living on disability anymore.

589
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:12.480
So whatever it takes to get to that point. You know,

590
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.519
I'm trying to use what I'm good at getting me

591
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.760
out of this hole. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's one

592
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.840
of those things. I think anybody with a disability has

593
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:26.599
to get creative with how they live, how they survive,

594
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.639
and how they grow. And I think that's just a

595
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:30.960
constant thing for us.

596
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.079
Yeah, but I think it's I think it's good too

597
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.400
for you know, more people with disabilities to explore their

598
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.039
creative side. Yeah, because you know a lot of people

599
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.199
feel maybe they don't. And I think we inherently have

600
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.920
a more creative side. Again, just from you know, years

601
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:51.599
of dealing and especially amongst the O wires, I've seen

602
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.199
that where it's like, yeah, you know, we spent so

603
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.400
many hours and days and weeks laid up like we

604
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.000
had to learn how to use our imaginations right or

605
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.559
we were watching a lot of and films and listening

606
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.800
to music. And so there's that creative side that I

607
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.480
feel a lot of people may not tap into. And

608
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.840
you know, because I encourage everybody, Like when I put

609
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.239
my book out, I told everybody, I'm like, you got

610
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:14.960
to write a book, now like now it's your turn.

611
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:17.199
So you know, the more books we have even on

612
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.840
this subject, the better. So I always encourage people like, yeah,

613
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.119
write your book, man, It's important to get your story

614
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.400
out there too, and it's a creative outlet.

615
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.719
Yeah, I mean, I can honestly say that, like between

616
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:35.239
video games and pro wrestling and music like that's that's

617
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.239
what kept me going for my younger years when it

618
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.559
was the hardest. I've been very fortunate in my older decades,

619
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.840
you know, to not nearly have as many breaks and

620
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.239
you know, traumatic events per se. I mean, I still

621
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.639
get sick and crack ribs and all that heavy horseshit,

622
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.639
but you know, it's a tough one sometimes, but we

623
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.960
get through it. Yeah, I played rock shows with broken

624
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:09.880
femurs and it just kept going. I gotta do what

625
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.119
you gotta do to keep keep that bus rolling.

626
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:14.400
It's so awesome because like, yeah, I think a lot

627
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.920
of a lot of us have done that, where we've

628
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.400
had broken bones and still had to like do stuff right,

629
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:23.360
like whether it's a job or whether it's I remember

630
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.880
a couple of times DJing on my crutches and it's like, yeah,

631
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.360
you just gotta you gotta do it, man, you gotta

632
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:33.760
you know, especially if you getting paid for some Yeah.

633
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.400
Absolutely, Yeah, commitments, commitment, no matter what it is.

634
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.199
Yeah, and it's great because a lot of people that

635
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.840
you know, maybe don't have a y or don't you know,

636
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.440
have a disability, they would they would call in sick

637
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:47.280
or they would you know. Yeah, I think we have

638
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.000
a different tolerance level for the pain and for the

639
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:51.920
commitment when it comes to that sort of thing.

640
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.599
Yeah. I think we're hungrier than the average bear. Yeah.

641
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:58.559
We work harder because we know it's going to take

642
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:03.440
a lot more, that's for sure. Yeah. So yeah, like

643
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:08.880
like Tony mentioned, for more information on osteogenesis in perfecta

644
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.639
like a olif dot org, it's probably your best source

645
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.599
for information across the globe to learn more about it

646
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.079
and learn about yours through it. And you know, this

647
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.639
is what we're about. We're about connecting through the wonders

648
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:29.920
of technology and making the world a much more livable

649
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.239
place and you know, finding out let's to get us

650
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.679
through the hard times. I think not enough people to

651
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:37.440
try to do that.

652
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:42.559
Yeah, Absolutely, connecting with the community, and you know, I

653
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.480
always encourage people that, like through the OI Life group,

654
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.960
the meeting that I hold every month. You know, I

655
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.920
promoted out there pretty much everywhere. It's not just within

656
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.800
like OI groups. So it's great because I've had quite

657
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:59.519
a few people come in that are brand new to

658
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.039
the commune where they're like, yeah, I haven't met an

659
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.320
Oire before, you know, I haven't met anybody else with

660
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.400
the I before. And it's really a great thing. And

661
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.519
I always encourage people to, you know, get connected to

662
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.000
the community. I wasn't connected to the community for so

663
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.159
many years, and I so wish I would have been,

664
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.320
because it would have, you know, kind of given me

665
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.719
the support and shown me some stuff that maybe, you know,

666
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.679
because I had a lot of questions or maybe some

667
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:28.039
doubts or ideas or fears or whatever we're kind of feeling.

668
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.840
When you connect with the community, you know, you see

669
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.000
the stories, you get to hear the stories and meet

670
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:38.800
the people, and sometimes it'll be you know, oh gosh,

671
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.119
you know, yeah I can do this, you know, if

672
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:43.719
you just get motivated and inspired to do something different

673
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.480
than cool. And so I think it's really important to

674
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.000
connect with the community whenever you can, no matter what.

675
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:53.599
Disability too, because even in the rare disability world, sometimes

676
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.480
it's such a small community and we are right. So

677
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.119
it's like you just got to connect with people because

678
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.159
you'll see there's more of us than you think and

679
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.639
and it's and it's for the most part, very supportive.

680
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:08.159
So it's good to meet meet fellow a wires.

681
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.800
No, totally. I couldn't have said it better myself. My

682
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.599
my earlier days, I wasn't quite focused on that. But

683
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.320
now that I kind of you know, I wouldn't say

684
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:23.079
past my prime, but you know, no way there.

685
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.280
Yeah, exactly, you're just getting in the prime. Age is

686
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.000
just a number. Age is just a number, trust me.

687
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:36.199
So I mean it's been much more rewarding in my adulthood, uh,

688
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.880
to get connected in the community and the way I

689
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.440
have in the last few years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it

690
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.360
probably would have helped out a little bit, but I

691
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.519
think I appreciate it more now.

692
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.079
Yeah, And I think that's what happens because even if

693
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.679
you know, we're younger, you know, through our twenties, we're

694
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.239
just trying to live our life, right, We're just like

695
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:57.960
to deal with any of this, you know. Yeah, I'm

696
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.000
just I'm just having fun.

697
00:39:59.039 --> 00:39:59.199
Man.

698
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.559
You don't want to deal with that stuff. And so

699
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.920
I think that's a natural human thing that people go

700
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.199
through where you're just kind of trying to find your way.

701
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.639
But you know, for anybody that is watching or listening

702
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.679
and you know you've you haven't met any other or

703
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.679
any other oires, you know, come to the OI Life Group,

704
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.639
reach out to the OIF dot org, or come to

705
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.320
my website and you come to the OIF OI Life

706
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.320
Group and just get connected because it's a lot of fun.

707
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:26.320
It's a lot of fun too.

708
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.199
Yeah, and like I said, you know, this is where

709
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:33.159
Tony and I corresponded first, and m m that's how

710
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.079
this whole thing came about. So yeah, or know what

711
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.320
kind of opportunities you're going to get when you tap

712
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.960
into that.

713
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.239
That's right. Yeah, I've connected with so many oires and

714
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.920
we've done great things. You know, We've created content, we've

715
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:51.039
you know, referred each other to different resources. You know,

716
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.519
you just never know, you just never know beyond the OI.

717
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.400
You know, maybe it's our through line. But again, you know,

718
00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:58.840
I may know somebody that you need to know and

719
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:00.000
so you're gonna get connected.

720
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.960
So a networking has always been my number one. Yeah,

721
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:05.360
you know, survivors skill.

722
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:10.239
I think that's great. Mine that's about mine that has

723
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:12.760
not been mine. I'm just you know, the last maybe

724
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:14.840
ten years, I've really started to learn how to do that.

725
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.559
But yeah, it's a great thing though, it's a great thing.

726
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.559
Well, before we wrap up here, today's episode is brought

727
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Go to puld on gunsensored dot Com slash sponsors for

729
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:34.320
more details. Tony, I want to thank you for coming

730
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.760
up on the show. Look forward to chatting a little

731
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.960
bit more in the future and getting more involved with

732
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.079
Alif now that I have the time into the technology,

733
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.679
uh to make it happen. So let's keep in touch

734
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:48.440
my friend.

735
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:50.679
Yes, definitely, I want to see you in one of

736
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.840
the workouts. So I want to see you on a

737
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.960
Monday morning coming to work out and I'm gonna and

738
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.239
soon I'll get another drum set and then we can

739
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:04.239
jam together. Absolutely, that sounds great, awesome, Thanks for having me.

740
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:05.159
I appreciate it.

741
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.000
Yeah, definitely. Well we'll see you next time, folks. And

742
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:13.280
like I said, bothegunsensored dot Com For every week and

743
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.960
every episode you get something different, so check it out.

744
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We'll catch you next time.