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Season 2 Episode 12: Will Daley ("Maze")

Season 2 Episode 12: Will Daley ("Maze")
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Will Daley (“Maze”), known professionally as “Maze,” is a rising force in the world of independent professional wrestling. With a style that blends brute strength, precision, and psychological edge, Maze has quickly become known for his ability to pull audiences into the chaos of his world—where every opponent must fight their way out. Standing out with a persona that’s equal parts unpredictable and calculated, Maze brings a dark, mind-bending intensity to the ring. His character thrives on uncertainty, forcing challengers to navigate a relentless storm of strikes, grappling, and psychological warfare. Fans never know what version of Maze they’re going to get—and that danger is exactly what makes him unforgettable. Outside the ring, Will Daley is a dedicated student of the craft. He approaches wrestling with respect for its history while pushing to carve out a new path with a unique identity. Whether performing in front of die-hard indie crowds or stepping onto bigger stages, Maze commands attention with presence, creativity, and raw athletic drive. A competitor with a story still being written, Maze is quickly building momentum as one of wrestling’s most intriguing emerging talents—hard-hitting, relentless, and impossible to ignore.

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What's up everybody. This is another addition of Bulldog Uncensored

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Season two, episode twelve. Today, I got my buddy Will

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with me. This is Will daily On, a professional wrestler,

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and I was involved in the business for many years.

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So we're in a talk shop and we'll just moved

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to my hometown. So excited to have him on the show. Well,

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thanks for.

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Coming, Thanks for having me pleasure to be here.

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Yeah, so I know we had a little technical difficulty

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there in the beginning, But so how did you end

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up getting out here to Sterling.

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Yeah, so I from Upstate New York originally, and then

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around ninety nine buddy of mine that I met, we

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went to school together, had similar interest in wrestling, moved

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down to Florida because there was no wrestling schools in

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upstate New York at the time. There kind of was.

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It was more like out in cornering New York. It

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was like two or three hours away, and it was like,

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I'm not moving out there in the travel to try

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to travel there. We'd gone out there and did a

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little bit of like what do you call it, try

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out so to speak, and just got familiar with taking

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bumps and you know, moving in the ring and stuff

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like this is cool. So then we decided to find

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a school down south because one one thing I wanted

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to get out of this cold weather I hate. Yeah,

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I hate the cold weather. Oh yeah, to move back.

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Well yeah, yeah, there's a story in that itself. But yeah,

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so you know, we did our thing down there in

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twenty thirteen that kind of hit some bad luck back

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up here and then moved out to Northborough for a

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little bit, and then Worcester for a little bit and

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then uh I met my wife and out here in

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the bottle house in Sterling and.

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Here we are right on. Yeah, small town life is

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definitely an acchoiry taste.

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Well where I'm from an upstate New York you know

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ever thinks New York, you know, from the city. I'm

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from the country. It's just like this, yeah country town

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and nothing to do.

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Yeah, now there's this a little blow dunk town of mine.

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Nice having the you know, American history and all that

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kind of stuff and Mary's Lamb and all that.

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Definitely I like it here.

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It's quiet for the most part. It's really good.

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Yeah, there's everything's just far enough where it's not inconvenient,

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you know what.

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I mean, yeah, absolutely, I like it.

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I do like it here.

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Yeah. The layouts not bad, no, not at all.

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Wild, Like the people like have a little farm stands outside. Yeah,

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you don't get that in upstate New York too much.

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Maybe now you do, but I don't because I don't

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go out there that much. But it's just cool if

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you need some fresh eggs and go two minutes down,

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Oh yeah, go in there and buy some eggs from somebody.

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So I like that. That's kind of cool.

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Yeah, And it's amazing how many people are doing it,

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even if they're not doing a full active farm house.

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People you know, having a few chickens and making a

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difference in the area. So pretty cool.

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I thought about getting chickens, but I don't know.

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They're way more work than it's worth people, trust me.

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That's what I hear. I'm like sounding like that. Maybe not.

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I mean, they're fun to a point, as long as

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you don't have three hundred of them in a whack

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or thirty.

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You know, crazy with them in the winter time.

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Well you gotta you know, you get to build a

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decent sized Cooper ship and you know, get them all

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situated and keep the heat on. But that's a lot

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of work. I like to eat chicken and babysit it right, exactly.

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But yeah, so what got you into wrestling?

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Well, it's like the it's like the traditional way everybody

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kind of gets into it, you know, a stumbled I

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was a kid, I remember, hold I was maybe six

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seven maybe, yeah, I said six seven. The younger audience

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will get that.

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Yeah, I'm still learning the new mumbo ye.

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But flipping through the channels and saw some wrestling. I

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don't know it was w w F at the time. Yeah,

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but just seeing those larger life characters and you know,

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you know, of course that back then it was you

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kfe was a real thing, and yeah, it's like, oh man,

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I got smashed down. I meant to her, you know,

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just kind of intrigued as a kid, and and the

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rest is history. You know, just kept following it and

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fell in love with it.

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Yeah, I mean the same for me. My next door

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neighbor growing up down the street here came over here

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one time. I think I was maybe five, and he

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was a little bit older than I was, you know,

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I was not quite teenager, but getting there and uh yeah,

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Mitch put on Superstars and I saw, oh thell was

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it Chris Candillo and I'm Ed Johnson. Yeah, they were

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doing a tag mage or some shit like that, and

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I just look at Tony and it's like he looked

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like he was carved out of stone. Oh yeah, And

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you know I knew who like the Hooke Coagan and

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Maso Man were as a kid, like, like way younger

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than that, right, But like I really didn't get into

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it until I was like five, and then I think, yeah,

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that's probably the earliest match I can remember from my memory.

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And of course going back and watching tapes and all

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that kind of stuff.

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You know, and then ECW coming along, and that's the

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thing a lot of people don't know, Like a lot

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of the young generation don't know, you know a lot

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about the tape trading back days, and you know, trying

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to find out about the ECW's or the ccws or

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xpws that no one ever knowing about unless you were

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tat and trades a lot of Japan stuff.

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Too, right, Yeah, a lot of a lot of situations.

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You get guys that are looking to get into it,

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but they only know what's under TV. And I mean

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that's that's why I have such a passion for underground music.

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It's the same kind of thing, Like you know, it's

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the little guys that make the way to get them

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where they need to be, and whether it's any form

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of entertainment, honestly, and you're starting to see that come

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back again, and I'm loving It's such a nostalgia for me.

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And you know, we had so many years where you know,

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w was the only thing on TV. In more recent years,

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right and then I'd say, what was like twenty seventeen,

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things just really started to shift. What do you think

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that comes from?

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I just I think the social media, the way that

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the products are promoted these days, and just the new

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generation of fans what they have their hands accessible to them.

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As far as what's out there, I think right now,

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within the last few years, wrestling is hotter than it's

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ever been.

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Oh absolutely, Like I feel like a kid again. Like

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you know, I definitely have a different eye for it

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now and a different appreciation for it. But I can

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honestly say, and I've told several wrestlers that met over

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the years, that you know, as a kid growing up

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in then out of the hospital and you know, dealing

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with physical injuries and things like that. You know, I

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really there was nobody to relate to in my age group.

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So when I saw guys like Mick Foley go through

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the things that he's gone through and still get up

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and fucking you know, it's it's amazing he can do

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what he does now, God bless the guy. But guys

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like Mick and Sean and Steve and Taker and everybody

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on that main roster at the time, those were my

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superhero I got into Batman and shit like that later

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on in life, but those guys because they were real.

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You know, you could touch him, like you need to

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shake their hand and have a coffee with him. I

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mean shit, I even smoke the joint with road Dog. Oh,

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Brian Man, he's a good friend of mine.

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I know we'll probably all over the place here, but yeah,

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I I trained with the Armstrong family beautiful because they

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were you know, down on the golf coast of Florida

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was a hot bed for those Southern wrestlers. You had

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the the van Erics, you had Rick Flair, Dusty Rhodes,

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the Armstrong family, a lot of people. They're not a

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household name, but if you got people that have studied

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the business or either older generations, they know who they are. Yeah,

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you got the road Dog. You got Scott Armstrong who

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was a referee and a wrestler, you know, for w W.

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And you had Steve Armstrong and then Brad who was

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the probably the best wrestlert all of them unfortunately passed away. Yeah,

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and then you had the father Bullet, Bob Armstrong. I

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used to go to show as a Bullet and he

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would he would come back. We be sitting in the

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locker room. He always came to me, so I kind

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of cherished it. He was coming to tie me up.

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I was the only one that was allowed to tie

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his mask up for him. Yeah. It was so cool.

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But so yeah, we're going back to RhoD Dog. He

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was always fun to be at shows because a lot

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of back then he was kind of messed up.

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So yeah, I mean, you know, Brian, we lovey Man,

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but one ship.

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No.

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I think the first independent show I ever went to

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was a promotion called Powerhouse Wrestling. I don't know if

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they're still active nowadays, but it was the Worster area

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and that's when I finally got a little bit more

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personal meet and Greek type of thing.

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Uh.

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But to backtrack, the first two people I met in

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the business. I was in the hospital bed and the

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Godwins and Jake the Snake they must have done the

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house show the night before and I was in the

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ICU after a surgery and they came in and I

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couldn't believe it. That was just like, how the hell

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is this happening?

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Right right?

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And that was before I ever got to go to

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a large show. He's just guys that I watched on TV.

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I'm like, what are they put in this morphine? Like

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tripping over here? Can give me some of that? Kids

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love me? Jake right, Yeah, but yeah, no, he he

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was that that man when he is touched, he's so

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open about it, and like he was one of the

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first guys I really felt like, yeah, we only talked

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for like ten twenty minutes, but yeah, exactly exactly and

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then and you know, at the time, I didn't know

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any different, But now I look back and it means

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that much more, right, exactly, But yeah, no, Godwins are

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great and.

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I actually, where's the sounds? I always I always liked

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their work. The Yeah god the Henry Godwin, Yeah he

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was I thought he was really smooth in the ring.

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And then you had the phineas he was. He was

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always pretty good. I actually liked them as a tag team.

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Yeah, I enjoyed it. I mean, I'm a little biased

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growing up on a farm, right, but uh, you know again,

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it was it was like before Austin was the thing

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I could relate to those guys because those are my

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family basically, right, just the northern version exactly. But yeah, man,

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like I can honestly say that in a lot of ways,

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although I could never physically get in the ring, like,

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wrestling has saved my life. That's good to hear, and

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that it was my first love, even before music, and

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you know, that's my bread and butters, so it's, uh,

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it's always nice to reconnect to that. And I think

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once I'm physically done like touring and all that kind

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of stuff, I'd like to get involved into you know,

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an defederation or whatever, like we spoke before.

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Yeah, I think you'd be good at it. Yeah, and

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music and wrestling really go hand in hand, oh right, exactly,

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the parallel. There are a lot of similars in the

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way that it's all set up, and the touring and

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the you know, promotion and yep, the theatricals of it

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is they're very similar. And even if you listen to

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bus and Open right, Bully Ray always is attributing wrestling,

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music and wrestling you know.

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Yeah, it's all the same ship. Like you know, you

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have to not necessarily always change with the times, but

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you gotta figure it out because it's never the same place.

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Right exactly.

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And I've been at this since two thousand and nine,

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so you can tell you that's quite a bit, right.

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But I started playing it i was ten. But like

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I said, wrestling with my first love and got me

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through a lot of hard ship.

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It's that's that seems to be something that that has

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been a lot for people. You know, you've got me

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through this, so you got me through that, and it's

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and it's great even with the you know, curtain pulled

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full back, Yeah it's people still sell out stadiums.

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Oh yeah, it's incredible. It's the most beautiful thing. I

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never would have imagined that it would become what it

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is now.

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Yeah. When they started, when they started doing the you know,

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the how they do everything, the guy in the mask

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and you know breaking you know, killing the k FA

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and stuff is Yeah, it made me so mad back then. Yeah,

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I don't want to know how it works, or I

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think by then I was already kind of in the business.

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So yeah, still it's like, why ruin it? Yeah, run

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the magic for someone. It's like a magician going out

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there and saying, oh, that's time I do it. After

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they do it the trick.

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It's well, I think when a lot of people don't

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realize that, you know, aren't familiar with wrestling. You know,

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you like watching movies, you like watching theater exactly, that's

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all fake, right, but they're still doing it and they

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still you know, ship happened, right, So, like it always

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amazed me when people just crab ass about that kind

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of stuff.

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Yeah, it's like, you know, the whole F word, the

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fake word, right, It's like, okay, well, you know, watch

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when you try to go up in the morning. You know,

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you know, I'm hurting every day in my life. I

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hurt right now. You know. It's just but I wouldn't

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change it for the world. You know, all the bumps

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I took on the floor, and yeah, because I was

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trained old school, So you get you get hit and

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half of the chair, you don't put your arms, you

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don't put your shot, you take the full shot. Yeah,

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I don't know how many undiagnosed concussions I've had in

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my life. Yeah, it's like a user shot, my back shot. Yeah,

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my shoulder needs another surgery. It's just it's not fake. Obviously,

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we all know it's predetermined. But you can't fake gravity.

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That's that's why it's one thing I'd like to say

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to people. Yeah, you can't fake gravity.

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No, there's no way around that.

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Ship I get slammed on the floor. I'm getting land

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on the floor. That's about it.

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But yeah, I I've always appreciated any you know, physicality

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of it and the theater behind it all. And you know,

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it's a lot more poetic if you really look at it,

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and I think at face value, and most people don't

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pick up on that now, But I can learn between

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different religions and wrestling, and that's that's kind of where

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I learned.

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My values, definitely, you know.

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And no, it's interesting, But so you talk about training,

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what was that first couple of weeks, Like, see, we.

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We we had we kind of had a lucky I

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guess we came in, we were we practiced a lot

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of the stuff on our own, even though we didn't

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really know we're doing it right. So we went to

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a show in Pencil call the Florida for Pensacola Wrestling Academy.

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That's really where we got our start. We went to

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one show and then after the show, we met with

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the booker, a guy named by the name of Bobby

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Doll nothing, no relation to the band guy. But he's like,

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you know, okay, come back tomorrow and we'll do a

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try out. And luckily they we had a couple of

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other guys with us from that we hit we were

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staying with. They came and they paired off with other

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guys and for some reason they paired me and my

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partner I went down there with and we were just

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flying all over. I was a high flyer at times.

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I'm doing you know, till the World the head takes,

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scissor head takedowns and per Corontas and shooting Star I was.

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I was one of the only ones that were doing

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running shooting Star presses at the time. And he's like,

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all right, well, we'll put you in the next show. Again.

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We had no psychology. We didn't know left from right

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in the ring.

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You know what I mean.

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But we were flashy and we looked good. So then

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you know, of course, but we we'd come during the

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week and he would you know, you know, teachers properly

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lock up and you know a little bit of psychology

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and why you do this, why when you do that,

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and you know what what this meant, what that meant?

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And uh so it took a little bit, but we

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didn't have to really take all the bumps and do

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all the calisthenics and as a normal student would do

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because we went to Adrian Street School. I don't know

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if you ever heard of the Adrian Street skull crushing

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the we went there and the gud the trainer was

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absolutely horrible. The guy didn't know. He's like, you guys

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know everything. I don't even I don't. I can't train you.

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I'm like, what do you mean you can't train this?

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We don't. We're just going off what we see on TV.

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It was. It was a bad experience. And then we

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got kicked out of there because some guy lied and

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said we're going through their bags and stuff, which never happened.

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So we ended up at the PWA and and that

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that's kind of where we laid our foundation. But you know,

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the taking, the taking the bumps, you know, the next

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day or two, you can't move your neck. Why really

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want to do this? But then you fall in love

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with it, know, and then it just becomes you become

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desensitized to it, you know.

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So absolutely, it's like putting cals as a guitar player.

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Takes time. It sucks in the beginning, but once you

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get going, you get used to it and you're good

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to go. So they can understand that for sure, and.

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We got it. We got exposed to because they were

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on the way up. They were a training school, but

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they'd run weekly shows every Sunday, and then eventually as

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they would bring in some some bigger talents that the

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Armstrong would come in and you know, different local talent

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that were kind of elevated at the time, Bobo Bzil

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Junior and you know, some of these other people, and

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then we would they'd started doing TV, so we got

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exposed to do a TV you know early so and

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then you know, we moved into bigger venues and it

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was really on its way and you know, some unfortunate

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things happened that I don't really want to speak about happened,

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and uh, it kind of folded. It sucks because it

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was you know, we had Paul Barr come into our

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shows every week. Yeah, Percy Pringle as they called him

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back in the South. We had him coming. We had

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the road Dog. We had his brother Steven Scott at

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our shows. We booked a gang not gang girl, but Raven,

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and we had a Billy Gunn come to our shows.

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So we were on our way up and it sucks

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and folded, and then we ended up going over to

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the Samoans. They had a show x W X or

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x W two thousand at the time, so we all

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of us p W A guys would go over there,

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even though they didn't like us. It was a rival,

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but they're like, wow, it's new faces. So then we

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did this whole angle and it was it was pretty cool.

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So then we got to work with the Simons Offenseka.

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You know Rikishimaga who passed away. Uh they called him

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back then, So we got working with them. Unfortunately, for

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some weird reason, never got cross pass us with the

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USOS or or Roman Reigns. They were the time we

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came in. The Twins they call them the Twins. Yeah,

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they already had moved to California, but I remember seeing

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them around. Yeah, really started training their kids, you know,

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But I never really got to work with them or

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anything like that. They were already they're already gone by

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time we came over to that side, So damn it

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would have been cool to work with those guys.

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Nice. So did you ever work any like dark matches

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or anything, get any shows? No?

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I never, I never did, only because the promoter we

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got some bad advice, you know. We we had we

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tried to get on tough enough, the original one, but

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our promoter, you know, we did everything in our promoter

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because that was our trainer and our promoter, because that's

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what we were taught. So we give him our tape.

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He never sent it in, you know. So I think

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we we would have been good enough to at least

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get on the show. Would we have made it all

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the way? I don't know, but I know they wanted

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people with a huge personalities back at back when I

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first started out, I was shy and didn't have a

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huge personality. I was good in the ring and flashing

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the ring flips, the moon salts and all that stuff,

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all the acrobatic stuff that no one was really doing

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in the South. There was more of a traditional you know,

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shoot style or chain wrestling style back back then, so

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you weren't seeing a ton of high flyers, so it

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was nice that I was one of the few that

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were doing that. That's kind of how I was. What

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was known down there was actually before do you do

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you watch the product regularly? Do you watch a w all?

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So you know bank Awese guys they call him the

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aerial Assassin. I was the air Assassin back in two

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thousand and one, two thousand and two. But yeah, so sorry,

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cet is kicking.

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And I lost where I was talking about. Happened often

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by the way, Yeah, no worries.

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You're listening to Brian Brian road Dog's old podcast where

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were we apologize ahead time if I lose myself where

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I'm at, but tryouts. So I never really got a

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chance till later in life. I when I moved back here,

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I got was an extra in SmackDown and a Raw

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And unfortunately they never used the extras that those two

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times that I did it, still get paid and still

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going to hang around, and so how does that work?

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It's who, It's all who, you know, you know what

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I mean?

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Yeah, I get that.

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So being that road Dog worked for WW you know,

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I had an open line communication with him, so he

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would give me. You know, Dan Angler, one of the referees,

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he books all the extras, So here's his email. And

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then it went to another guy after him, another referee guy.

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I can't remember his name off the top of my head,

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so here's his email. Email him those I have always

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had those contacts.

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Yeah, I mean, it's like I said, no different than

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music business. You make the contacts you can and use

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where you can appropriately and then you know, see where

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it goes. I get it.

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And it's weird because at that time, it was so

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late in my career, was kind of out of shape

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at that time, so I wasn't really looking to get.

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In the ring.

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I wanted more of a like a security type. You

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know they have the fake security guys. Yeah, yeah, I

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was looking more of that role. So if they had

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to ask guys that want they wanted to work out

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in the ring and for a tryout, I actually probably

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would have turned it down because, like I said, at

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that time, I was I was out of the business

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for so long.

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I was just out of shape yea.

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So it was I didn't want to make myself look

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bad in those scenarios. But I knew there was other

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areas I could, you know, I could be seen. So

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that's kind of what I went for.

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So you did all that back then and now recently

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you actually did some extra work with TNA right now.

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Oh yeah, yeah, that was awesome. I I reached out.

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I had I'm not trying to name drop here, but

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I was part of a film that was filming a

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buddy of mine, he got into the film business in

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New York, and he had reached out to me to

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ask if there was anybody that I would know that

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might be able to be involved. And it was about

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suicide awareness and and things that mental problem not problems,

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I don't want to say the word word, but.

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Mental health.

470
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.119
Mental health, Yes, things people going through and he wanted

471
00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:38.200
to make a film about or documentary. So I had

472
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:43.079
reached out to James Ellsworth. So because I kind of

473
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:45.440
he was on a show, I kind of knew I

474
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:47.319
had some information from him, and I reached out to him.

475
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.960
He gave me his phone number. Long story short, I

476
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:53.079
reached out to him again, texted him to Hey, you know,

477
00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:55.200
I kind of reintroduced myself. Hey, I've been doing this

478
00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.359
twenty years and you know, I'm I'm just trying to

479
00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:59.640
help I help other people out, help me out. But

480
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:01.119
it's we do in the business, like yeah, I mean,

481
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.599
no problem, Like do you have anybody a number for

482
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.079
TEENA that is the booker that you can help me?

483
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:07.680
You know, so I can try to because they're coming

484
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.839
to loll Bound for Glory was calling to loll and

485
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.319
that's like the WrestleMania. Yeah, I'm like I can get

486
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:12.640
on that.

487
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:13.079
Yeah.

488
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.720
Great, And he's like, yeah, here's so and so reach

489
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:19.279
out And I reached out and he's saying the guy's like, well,

490
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:21.359
when a little too early now, but when it comes

491
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.559
like thirty days before, you know, reach out, give me

492
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:27.640
all your information, and sure enough I got picked. Yeah.

493
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:28.599
So what was that night?

494
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:28.799
Like?

495
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:30.079
Walk through it?

496
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:35.119
Oh so we got there that it was a great experience.

497
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:37.759
Yeah it was. They worded it in a way that

498
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.880
and I don't care because I've always been I've always

499
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:42.559
had a love for the business. So money never really

500
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:45.880
made a difference to me. I don't It didn't really

501
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:47.759
bother me. So, but it was more of it. They

502
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:49.799
threw it in the in the verbiage, it's more of

503
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.880
a volunteer role. Yeah, so you go there the night

504
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.319
before and you help set up, so you know, you

505
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.359
go in there and you bring like tons of tots

506
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:01.000
and shirts and all the ring stuff. So but it

507
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:02.960
was cool to be a part of that because you've

508
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:05.759
got to meet some people that were that were there,

509
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:09.640
the producers and people that helped set up the ring,

510
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:13.960
and referees that helped set up the ring, and so

511
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.640
that was cool. It was very hard work though, you know,

512
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:19.839
toting all that stuff around because you don't know what

513
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.480
to expect. Because I helped set up. I set up

514
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:24.799
a couple of rails or some chairs, but no, it's

515
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:29.359
just everything, you know, wow, and uh, you know you

516
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.720
set up the match, you tape everything down, you know

517
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.480
you And I had to actually one of my tasks

518
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.000
that I was sitting in a chair. I think I

519
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.559
was there for like three hours wrapping barbed where around

520
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:40.240
a kendo stick.

521
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.440
No sorry, it's a thing of beauty guys.

522
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.440
Actually, what I had to do is not the I'm

523
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:49.319
gonna there was still on there. But had they wanted

524
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:50.880
me to cut down the barbers a little bit. Yea,

525
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.200
So I had to take a huge ass roll of

526
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.680
I probably still have scars. I was weren't shorts, my

527
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.880
legs were off kind of squaar. Yeah, I all fucked up,

528
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.599
like I was bleeding everywhere. Yeah, but I had to

529
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.400
call all the little barbers a little shorter, so you know,

530
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.440
obviously no one was getting hurt. And then try by

531
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.160
the time, it was like I hadn't eaten anything all

532
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:14.799
day and I was getting irritable and I'm like, I

533
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.039
couldn't get the barbier wrapped around it. So somehow they

534
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:20.279
actually handed off to some other people to do and like,

535
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.000
thank god, because I was I had done.

536
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:27.079
Enough three hours wrestling with no other opponent involved.

537
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.319
No, and I think the barber one.

538
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.519
Actually, yeah, like you know that's a that's the backwards gag,

539
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:34.440
right there. Man.

540
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.799
We were there. We were there kind of luckily. Actually

541
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:39.960
we set up everything in record time. They were pretty

542
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.279
actual impressed because we had enough people that were not

543
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:46.440
just sitting around, so we uh, you ever you ever

544
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:49.240
done anything? You ever? None of the people from Showcase

545
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.640
for wrestling Showcase.

546
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:54.400
I have a couple of corwegs that I know.

547
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.279
There's a guy there, Don Vega Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

548
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.640
he was there. He was part of the show. Okay,

549
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.720
So it was cool to see him. I've seen him

550
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:02.480
all over the place.

551
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.160
Hey, what's going on?

552
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:11.240
Then I wish he'd booked me, but yeah, but so no,

553
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:13.200
we got everything done and then you know, they said

554
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.279
return back here. At the call time was like nine am.

555
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.200
You know, I'm thinking, w W where it's one o'clock.

556
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.640
And uh so we Luckily I didn't have to They

557
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.559
didn't ask us to wear a suit or anything, because man,

558
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:27.759
I hate yeah, I can't stand it. I'm like, I

559
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:29.400
don't have a full fledged suit and I were to

560
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:32.000
wear a nice shirt and I don't worry about it.

561
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:35.960
So we show showed up and got everything, everything else

562
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:40.680
finished up, and uh just it was at the right time.

563
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.960
I kind of properly. They had a very gather up

564
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:45.880
and that guy, the main booker guy, was actually the

565
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:51.319
lead referee. I was kind of picking people for security

566
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:52.640
and things to do and that everybody was going to

567
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.720
get a spot, you know. Yeah, so I kind of

568
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.359
like make sure I was making eye contact and just

569
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.160
kind of being there. And he's like, we need four

570
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:04.720
guys for uh man's warners and uh uh Steph de Lander.

571
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.839
They have these zombies that come out. Yeah, okay, So

572
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.559
I'm like and I think they wanted some different sized people,

573
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.680
so they picked Don who was a big, bigger guy,

574
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.880
picked me and two guys atlong scraggly hair. So I

575
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.839
was like, yes, it's cool man, because we got to

576
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.480
do a got to meet Tommy Dreamer. I marked out

577
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.400
a little bit and I ain't gonna lie, you know.

578
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.839
I was again being trained old school. I don't have

579
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.079
any pictures. We got people. I don't ever take pictures

580
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:35.839
super stars. Y's been in the business just the way

581
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.480
I've always been. Yeah, sometimes I kicked myself in the

582
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.519
butt for it, because you know, there's some opportunities I

583
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.960
could have gotten some pictures, some some legends, you know.

584
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:46.960
But anyhow, so I got to meet Tommy Dreamer and

585
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.720
you know, Bowlie, Ray and Devon, yeah, you know, everybody

586
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.319
back there, and uh we got to do a walk through,

587
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:58.160
which is cool, and you know, and it was like,

588
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.599
I've never done a zombi before. So I'm thinking back,

589
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:02.519
like the Walking.

590
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:03.599
Dead, Yeah, how do I do?

591
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.720
And I'm like, you know, and one of the guys

592
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:11.079
was doing the traditional yeah, and I'm like I'm just gonna,

593
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.839
you know, pretend my ankle's broken or something, just gonna.

594
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:14.839
Yea my leg.

595
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:19.440
Honestly not toot my horn. But I think I was

596
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:21.400
one of the best looking zombies out of the four

597
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.039
of us, you know, because I said one guy was

598
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.000
just doing this, Yeah, what do you think about that?

599
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.880
I'm like, yeah, go with that.

600
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.079
Yeah you want to look at.

601
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:32.079
So And then you know, I was one of the

602
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.680
ones in the front. And it sucks too because at

603
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:36.559
the showtime, you know, you get out there and get

604
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.640
your que go, go go, and you're dressing all your

605
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.599
make up. They had to make up artists common they

606
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.559
didn't do everything they did to the main guy, but

607
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.240
they just did some blood and stuff. So and I was.

608
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.839
I was, and she Stephed de Landa brought all her

609
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.839
own wardrobe stuff for the zombies. She just went to

610
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.119
through store and then they tore them up and put

611
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.759
fake blood on them and coffee and standing the brown

612
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.799
and stuff. So I was like, I'll be the old

613
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:03.920
grandpa because I was this one there and I had

614
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:05.960
the gray hair and they had a cane and a

615
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.519
robe and everything that you see the video around on

616
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:09.279
my social media.

617
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:10.279
Yeah, it's pretty funny.

618
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:14.160
But walking out there and doing the spot, it's like

619
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:16.640
I could I couldn't take a minute to soak it

620
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:18.000
in and look around, you know what I mean, because

621
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:19.640
I had to act and my head was moving all

622
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:24.680
around and and then so it was great, but I

623
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:26.440
just I wish I could have taken a second to

624
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:28.440
kind of look around, but I know I couldn't, you know,

625
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.440
because the cameras on. You can't just drop character and

626
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:32.559
be like right right, right.

627
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.839
Cool, because that's a really weird zone to you over there.

628
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.480
Actually was walking out too, because I heard a fan

629
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:45.880
off to my right. You did sh but no, that

630
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:48.599
it was. It was a cool experience. And I took

631
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:52.200
pictures that ended up on Teenage's website, and you know,

632
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.880
when they did another skit, but I don't know. I

633
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.759
don't think it ever made the light daylight, but they

634
00:32:56.240 --> 00:33:00.359
light a day. They did a skit where the Allien's people,

635
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:01.160
I don't.

636
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:02.720
Remember their names.

637
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:07.240
I don't watch Teenage much as I probably should. They

638
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:11.559
did a skit at the in the catering where that

639
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:12.960
was a part of but I take it on my

640
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.559
makeup off and everything like that. Guys are still kind

641
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.720
of in there. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know.

642
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.799
It was fine, but I don't I haven't seen that footage.

643
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:23.559
I don't know if they ever they ever put it

644
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.880
out there or not. It's pretty funny. But yeah, just

645
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.119
being being there and being a part of you know,

646
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:36.839
the Dudley's not a part of it. But watching tag

647
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.200
team match Tables match was was cool and never it

648
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:42.359
was nice. You know, no one really big time me

649
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:44.559
and they you know, they shook my hand and yeah,

650
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.680
you know where sometimes you know, do extra stuff for

651
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:53.079
w w's just like what's going on? Yeah, you know,

652
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:54.200
I take bump the same as you do.

653
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:54.440
You know.

654
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.279
Yeah, yeah, I'm not well known.

655
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.519
But on TV, but I right, right right, yeah, that

656
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.759
that's gotta get under your skin sometimes it really does.

657
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.880
And someone that just I just don't understand, you know. Yeah,

658
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:11.920
again I'm not making the contracted worker and I'm not,

659
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.280
but you know, I I could out work at the time.

660
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:18.039
I feel I could outwork a lot of the guys

661
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.719
that were on TV. Yeah, you know, And and I

662
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.159
don't ever put that out there. And I'm not that

663
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.039
kind of guy to say I'm better than everybody, but

664
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:26.159
the big time you know, to not you know, I

665
00:34:26.199 --> 00:34:28.800
had dream attack what we were standing and the just

666
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.039
in a group of the extras were talking and shooting

667
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.320
the ship and he comes up and I didn't see

668
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:34.960
him first, so he's holding his hand and I'm like,

669
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.320
oh ship, I sure, yeah, you know, that was cool.

670
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:38.679
You know, there's a couple of guys that did that.

671
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.280
One of the guys from the what were their names,

672
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.639
raiz arron ACoM. I was talking to Brian and he

673
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:48.440
comes up, Hey, how's it going, sir. I was in

674
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:52.840
a suit media. Yeah, because they hires people all the time.

675
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:54.960
It's just the fact that a couple of them would

676
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:56.840
would come up and you know, and talk to you,

677
00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:59.880
and but then someone just wouldn't give you the time

678
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:00.239
of day.

679
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:01.599
Yeah, it was cool.

680
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.599
I was. I was leaving actually, bray Wyret in full

681
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.440
fiend gimmick walked by and gave me a fistbump before

682
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:12.199
he went to Gorilla. Yeah, so it was cool. You know,

683
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.519
some guys were cool like that and some guys just.

684
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:16.199
Man.

685
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:18.639
I would have he existed, I would have loved.

686
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:20.480
Oh.

687
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.360
Yeah, I didn't get a chance to sit and talk

688
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:22.679
with him.

689
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.679
Yeah, but just to be in that man's presence, like brilliant,

690
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:27.559
brilliant guy it was.

691
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.880
And I was walking through and he he extended Yeah me,

692
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:32.280
I was just gonna leavehim a long because that's what

693
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:33.000
you taught as an extra.

694
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:33.719
I don't talk to them.

695
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.599
I never paid. I didn't give a ship. I was like,

696
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.760
if I had an opportunity to talk to kurr Angle,

697
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.239
which I did, I'm going to talk to him. Sean Michael,

698
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.440
I'm gonna talk to him because you know, you get

699
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.639
to because I was at the show where Roman had

700
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:49.360
relinguished the title because he had his leukema came back.

701
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.480
I was I was back. Yeah, so that was cool

702
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.079
to kind of and I wish I would have gotten

703
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.480
a chance to talk to him because I would have

704
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.159
been like that, dude, your dad, I worked with your

705
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.559
dad for years is a SIKA and you know, he

706
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.440
was always always super nice to me. You know his family,

707
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.599
they're always they were always all super nice to me.

708
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.360
Even when I see him at signings and stuff. I

709
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:12.719
don't know if he remembers me per se, but yeah,

710
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:17.039
because I call him Junior, that's him. Junior was going ahead.

711
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:18.920
He shook my hand and he was always so nice

712
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:20.480
to me, and I don't know if he remembers me,

713
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.480
but next time I see him, I have to ask

714
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.400
him and ask him you remember who? Because I worked

715
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.639
with him. He runs shows up in Atmore, Alabama, and

716
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.800
he would book Luna and gang Girl all the time. Yeah,

717
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.159
so I did plenty of shows with him.

718
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.840
So and but you never know, Yeah, my wife's sit here,

719
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:39.639
Luna fan.

720
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.840
She was. She was such a sweetheart. She was so nice.

721
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:46.199
Like it's weird not to hear in that raspy voice,

722
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.760
you know what I know. It's like, yeah, she's like,

723
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.280
how's it going, you know, shook her hand and she

724
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.679
was let me move my stuff down. I'm like, you're

725
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:55.000
the superstar. I'll sit on the floor.

726
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:57.519
You learned that spot.

727
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.840
Yeah, but now there were David. I was again. I

728
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.760
was phone over. I text him and done, Hey, what's

729
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.440
going on? Who's this? I'm like, oh, that's amazed, you know.

730
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:10.440
That's why I wrestled as amazed And you're like, yeah,

731
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.760
I remember you. And then I'll reach out to Robert

732
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:14.559
Gibson every now and then too, like hey, what's going on?

733
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:21.719
And maybe like Robbie and over here, yeah looking at me, like.

734
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.360
Guy's got so much ship for that, you know, wandering

735
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.519
Eye's got But he was so cool. I remember I

736
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.199
went to wrestle Maye thirty eight and uh, I went

737
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:33.159
to the wrestle Khan and he was there and he's

738
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.639
like what He's like a frank lock up, and yeah,

739
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.679
you know you got Ricky over there trying to introduct Yeah,

740
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.239
he's like trying to shake my hand, like, how's it going.

741
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.719
I'm like, I'm looking, I'm talking to I'm talking to

742
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:51.679
Robert right now. That really Ricky was cool too, he

743
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:53.960
was he was. I didn't get a really chance to

744
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:55.559
talk to him because didn't like again, I didn't they

745
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.119
ever signed an autograph. Yeah, Robert was cool and talking

746
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.000
to me for a minute, and actually I got as

747
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.039
funny as the sounds I was. Booker t had no

748
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.719
windings Lyne. So I walked up to him. I was like, hey,

749
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.519
because he had had a student, uh, Rex Andrews come

750
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.960
to his school. He was actually moving up in his

751
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.920
reality of wrestling. Yeah, and we get I has had

752
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.039
my last match in the Gulf Coast with his student.

753
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.239
I was like, hey, you know good friends at Rex Andrews. Oh, yeah,

754
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.280
I love that guy. What happened to him because he

755
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.800
just fell on his face? Yeah yeah, I don't know, man,

756
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.280
He's like it. Had a good fifteen minute conversation with

757
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.760
Booker just to be talking about you know, indie wrestling

758
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:32.239
and stuff and.

759
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:33.760
Yeah, and so it was.

760
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:34.800
It was pretty cool.

761
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:39.920
But yeah, I hope to get more people that are

762
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.239
recognizable or at least on the Indy Segate on the show.

763
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.159
And then Brian Maloney's on in the first season. That

764
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:48.559
was fun.

765
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:50.440
Really shout out to Brian Nice.

766
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.360
Uh so, yeah, we we ran into each other at

767
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.159
a couple of local shows and I reached out to

768
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:01.719
him and if he have any running in with Phonzie.

769
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:05.480
With who oh no, I never got to meet phonics No.

770
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.599
Yeah, we just had him on the show like a

771
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:13.480
couple of months ago. Yeah. Oh god. He would call

772
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:19.239
me like randomly, like after we started talking drunk. Yeah

773
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.039
right now, No, but he would just call me like, hey,

774
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.280
what's going on? Just get it that you know, you know.

775
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.039
And the funny part is that's him. It's not the gimmick,

776
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.079
that's literally him. And I just think it's hilarious.

777
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:34.920
That is hilarious.

778
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.159
You know, he's sitting there, he's introducing me to his

779
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:44.840
wife on the web. Gam hilarious guy. I'm yeah. So

780
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:52.320
speaking of out Fonso uh e c w Man, what

781
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.480
was your earliest memory of that?

782
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:59.679
I just I remember watching them at like three in

783
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.039
the more. I don't know if I'm right at the time,

784
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.119
but it was it was like one twelve, one two

785
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.400
in the morning. They would come on, like the Sunshine

786
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.880
Network or something like that, and it was just like

787
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.840
just the way that they you know, and then you

788
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.559
just the way they presented themselves so raw and different

789
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:19.880
and it looked Indie, so it was like, Okay, I

790
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.400
can get into this, you know. Yeah, and man, the

791
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.559
wrestling was so good. Yeah, it wasn't like it is now.

792
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:28.280
And again nothing against the way wrestling is now, but

793
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.679
it's just they were workers, man. And yeah you would

794
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:38.199
have you would have r VD and and what's the

795
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.800
other guy who wrest all the time? Yeah, they would

796
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:43.559
just have these you know, they worked a lot of

797
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.320
stuff out, but still it didn't look so rehearsed. R work.

798
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.960
Today's stuff just very it's very choreographed late.

799
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.599
Yeah, and again to reach his own and that's how

800
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:53.559
they do wrestling.

801
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:54.039
Yeah.

802
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.440
And even in TNA, I saw guys boom boom bang,

803
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.199
you know, and then they would go over and fighting

804
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:03.679
the ring and there me, I was more old school

805
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:05.800
where I would you know, i'd be working a guy,

806
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:06.800
what do you want? What do you want to do

807
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.519
for an opening? Oh, let's just do this little thing

808
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:11.119
and then we call everything else in the ring and

809
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:12.199
then we come up with a finish.

810
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.440
That was it? So that that'd be so what pretend

811
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:22.679
I'm the other guy? Like, how would the conversation go if.

812
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:24.559
I didn't know you or whatever? Yeah, obviously shook your

813
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.760
hand here, you know what you heal your face or

814
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.880
healing the night, whatever. You figure that part out, and

815
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.400
then you know, you just say, come up with you know,

816
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:33.920
we kind of spit ball back and forth, Well, what

817
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:35.280
do you want to do for an opening? Try to

818
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.239
come up with something, you know, a little flashley, you know,

819
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:44.159
lock up, you know, arm drag or hip toss, duck,

820
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.159
or you can do something outside slide out, you chase

821
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.840
me in, I'll come in, you'd stop me, or you know,

822
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:51.840
you do a lake sweet. There's just so many different

823
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.079
things that you can come up with for opening. So

824
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.559
you kind of work that opening spot out and then

825
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:58.719
you you know, and then you cut the you cut

826
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.400
the baby face off the heel, you know, and then

827
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:05.159
you control the heel controls nine percent of the match,

828
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.199
and then you have you know, you have your hoop

829
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.599
spots where the looks like the baby faces coming back

830
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:13.159
and then cuts them off. Yeah, you know, and then

831
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.440
you come up. You know those things are I feel

832
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.679
that's the lost art because those times in between, it's

833
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.440
just so easy to call stuff in the ring. You know,

834
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.840
duck to take a boot. You know that can as

835
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.039
I'm pulling you back to the thing, duck to take

836
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.119
a boot, Duck line, duck line, watch my boot or

837
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.440
a leg calf kick or something like that. Yeah, you

838
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.079
know that that spot right there's you know a few seconds,

839
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.679
but you could sell it. Yeah, while you're thinking the

840
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.519
next thing, you get up. Okay, reverse me duck one,

841
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:42.320
give me a back by the drop, I'll roll out.

842
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:43.760
You can call all that ship in the ring.

843
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.719
Now, do you ever give any of the boys and

844
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:53.119
girls already times for being too loud about coloring ship

845
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.119
because I've been noticing that on tea any more. Yeah,

846
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.440
like this blatant wait right out in the open. There's

847
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:05.239
no tucking heads, it's none of that ship was the

848
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.280
worst at it. Yeah, I love them, but.

849
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:14.079
I uh yeah, I've had to because I've I've had

850
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.280
guys call spots and then I can hear if I'm

851
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.559
sitting off and if I'm watching the show, yeah, and

852
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:21.639
I see guys in the ring and that are calling

853
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.119
spots in the ring, the people in the front will

854
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.800
be like, ah, he's gonna they hear it, and it's

855
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.000
gonna happen from time to time. But I've always been

856
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:34.559
I always have a spot where I do it and

857
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.400
where picking them up. And as I'm lifting them up,

858
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:41.880
then his head's down, I'm like duck. And then as

859
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.519
I'm backing them up, you know, if they didn't hear me,

860
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:46.199
they have time to say what and I still have

861
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:48.480
time to say duck, to take a leg or take

862
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.079
a boot, you know. So where most some guys are

863
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.360
doing it as they backed it up into the corner,

864
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:58.559
you know, and even then I have time to repeat it. Yeah,

865
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.599
give me, give me, give me the kitchen sink, kitchen sink.

866
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.480
Doc gives me the knee. I flip over his knee.

867
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:05.119
Yeah, you know.

868
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.960
So I think I think there's some guys that just

869
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:10.280
don't know how to do it that well, you know

870
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.840
what I mean. So, but again, nowadays guys are doing

871
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.039
We had a guy I wrestled with. His name is

872
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:19.320
Danny Roland. He's a good buddy of mine. Yuh. He

873
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.559
liked to call everything in the back and I couldn't

874
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:24.400
remember all of it, And then he couldn't remember all

875
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:24.559
of it.

876
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:28.400
Yeah, so then he had the back so he's asking

877
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.800
me what's next. I don't know.

878
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:32.880
I like to call it the ring. I can't remember

879
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:33.760
all that stuff.

880
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.199
I remember watching a documentary a couple of years ago

881
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.440
talking about Macho man would literally write the whole fucking

882
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:48.639
thing out. And you know, if you're somebody like you

883
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.519
are right, that isn't much of a memorizer or anything

884
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.519
like that. Like, I can't imagine the pressure I.

885
00:44:56.360 --> 00:45:01.159
Was watching the guys put together the the battle. It

886
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:03.480
was like a Battle Royal that they had at BOTM

887
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:04.039
for glory.

888
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:05.000
Yeah, I was.

889
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:06.960
That was the one that was kind of a part

890
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.039
of it came out during Manson Warner. He was the

891
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.880
last guy in that tournament and they were just going

892
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.360
over all these They were in a circle where we

893
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.400
were getting our makeup on, but they would like, you

894
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.000
go to I can't. I had a phone on phone

895
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.480
going through okay now YouTube after we do our spots YouTube,

896
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:26.960
and they would get in there and rehearse all their stuff,

897
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:31.760
and I I couldn't remember it. It's crazy, and I

898
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:33.480
and if I wrestled the guy that was like that,

899
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.960
I would have to and it would kind of I

900
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:37.719
kind of felt bad for myself, but I was like,

901
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.400
you know, if I was wrestling. I wrestled a kid

902
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:45.000
called Nick Curry family, famous family, the Curry Family. I

903
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.519
wrestled him for the last show that New England. Uh

904
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:56.840
poor wrestling had uh forre she Sheldon Colbert. Yeah, and

905
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.880
uh he I wrestled him, but he wanted to do

906
00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:00.599
all these spots.

907
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:01.039
I kind of.

908
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.000
Being the veteran at the time, and I kind of

909
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:06.719
should have shut him down on some of the things,

910
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.480
but I was I hadn't wrestled them while, and I

911
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:10.920
was nervous, like in the back on over like a

912
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.400
hundred times, because that's how that's his style. He wants

913
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.079
to remember everything, go overything. I'm like, but I should

914
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:17.920
have just been like, no, we'll just call it in

915
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.920
a ring. But yeah, I just I was just like, ah,

916
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:23.599
I'll let him, let him kind of do what he

917
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:25.519
wants to do, and I'll make I'm the older guy,

918
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.000
I'll make him look good. I didn't forget anything, thank goodness,

919
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.519
but it was I should have. I didn't get much

920
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:35.119
in the match, you know what I mean, maybe I

921
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.480
should have taken a lot of the match, and it's

922
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.559
given him his whole spot and then a good finish.

923
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.239
But it's it's fine, man.

924
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:47.559
I think in the last maybe ten to fifteen years,

925
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.239
it's either feast or famiine with good finishes.

926
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.880
Yeah, oh yeah, what do.

927
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:56.320
You what do you think that's about?

928
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:01.880
The problem is finish. There's too many finishes. Yeah, so

929
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:04.480
that's one of the problems I have with ae W.

930
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.199
It's and don't get me wrong, I actually think a

931
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.320
W is a much more fun show than WW. As

932
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.480
of late, WW is boring and put it on it

933
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.920
as background I'm scrolling through. Yeah, I've been feeling that

934
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:21.440
way too, and I'm a WW homer I've wrote with WW.

935
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:26.039
But going back to ae W, they just there's so

936
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:27.800
many Like you get a guy that has a Canadian

937
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:29.800
story on the pavement and then he's up two minutes

938
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:33.679
later doing something else. They don't sell, and there's like

939
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.400
four hundred finishers and there's nine hundred high spots, right,

940
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:39.239
And that bugs the ship on of me because it's

941
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.960
just you're killing the business that way. It's like, don't

942
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.320
give the guy time to sell. He's got to get

943
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:48.280
up because he remember the next spots. And that just

944
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:50.519
bothers me. It's I think it'll always about me to

945
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:53.960
some people here, like Cornet, you just stuck in the past.

946
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:59.199
You have the exactly and there's a lot of good

947
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.320
stuff that I see there, and but there's just too

948
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:04.599
much that I don't like it. It bothers me.

949
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:11.360
Yeah, yeah, So what was your moves that?

950
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:11.760
Like?

951
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:13.719
How did that work out?

952
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.239
So? Starting out, I was I was a high flyer. Yeah,

953
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.920
so I would you know, I have some highlight videos

954
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.559
on my social media, but you know I was doing

955
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:27.199
you know, the shooting star press. I never did it

956
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:29.360
off the top rope. It wasn't I didn't dare myself.

957
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.119
I did a running which I thought was cool. I

958
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.639
saw the only one I saw do like that was

959
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:34.320
amazing red.

960
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.280
Yeah, I don't know, it didn't end up on your

961
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.360
fucking a head after that. A lot of practice, yeah,

962
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.599
I guess a lot of failed attempt and.

963
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.559
I always got it around. Eventually I could do it

964
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.920
to where I could run, do a flip and land

965
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.360
on my feet from it. Because I would do that

966
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.400
sometimes and then I would do a back handspring and

967
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.119
then come up and get annihilated.

968
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:56.639
Oh yeah, so you're doing your star level.

969
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:00.519
Yeah, that's that was my style until I got until

970
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.679
I started getting a little weight. Yeah, because I had

971
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:06.000
gotten out of the gym and got lazy. So then

972
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.199
I moved to more of a ground and pound style.

973
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.519
I would still do that I had. This is not

974
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:14.360
by me, but for people down south. You ask some

975
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:16.000
of the guys that were there since I started that

976
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:18.320
are still watching rustling today. You asked them who had

977
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:21.000
the best drop kicking in the business. They'll tell you

978
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.880
I did because I could do a running hit the

979
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.199
guy's chest and do a backflip.

980
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:25.880
Right.

981
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:28.199
Yeah, and you weren't. You didn't see a lot of that.

982
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.559
Some guys were good at that, so I was kind

983
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:38.000
of known for that, but I they, uh, that was

984
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.079
my style then then I then I had went to

985
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:41.800
ground upound when I gained a little bit more weight.

986
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:46.000
So a buddy of mine actually dubbed me back in

987
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.920
two thousand and eight, two thousand and seven eight, he

988
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.039
called me, he called me the bruiser weight, just pissed

989
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:52.320
me off.

990
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:53.880
When oh, yeah, I get there.

991
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.840
He done started using it. Yeah, I dropped that from

992
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.360
my moniker. Yeah, it sucks is honestly, I was using

993
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:02.920
if you look at some of my social media for

994
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:04.599
back in two thousand and eight, I was wearing shirts

995
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.599
and said user weight on it. Yeah, and you know,

996
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:11.079
and then WW licensed it because I was gonna I

997
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:12.000
was gonna patent.

998
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.599
It, right, but it's ridiculous how much money it costs

999
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:21.840
to copyright and ridiculous, like luckily there's some loopholes when

1000
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:26.320
it comes to music. But like I just I get

1001
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:29.599
a bunch of trademarks this year and it wrecked me

1002
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:33.239
right cost wise, was crazy.

1003
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.159
Yeah, I looked, I looked myselde and I'm like, by then,

1004
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.159
and then I asked a lawyer, like can I fight this?

1005
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:42.400
W W, you're that one, so you're the only luck

1006
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.320
is if they don't renew it after the ten years

1007
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.280
or whatever and then scoop it up. But yeah, even then,

1008
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.480
I'm I'm done with I don't need it anymore.

1009
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:51.960
So you should have just had to shoot match with

1010
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:52.719
the dude.

1011
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.159
All right, he probably would have beat me up.

1012
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:58.639
Yeah, he looks pretty mean, all right.

1013
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:03.320
Yeah, I uh, I learned some shoot I learned some

1014
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:06.239
shoot style fighting when I was at Adrian School. That

1015
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.440
was one thing that I did get when he did

1016
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.039
come to the school. Adrian Street, that guy was a

1017
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.159
hell of a shooter. Even at back then, I think

1018
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:18.800
he was in his late sixties, early seventies. He could

1019
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.239
he could stretch you like six away, some Sunday start style.

1020
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:22.440
Man.

1021
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.440
Yeah, he would teach you, you know, some great Matt wrestling.

1022
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:29.920
He couldn't teach you the high flying stuff. He couldn't

1023
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.800
teach you to duck this, duck that, take this, taken

1024
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.559
county stuff. But if you want to learn Matt wrestling,

1025
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:37.840
there was no one better than Adrian Street.

1026
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:38.159
Ye.

1027
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:42.280
God rest, I think he had the boss his life

1028
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:46.119
to cancer, unfortunately. But I just said I had a

1029
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.840
bad experience there, and I tried not to bad mouth

1030
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.360
the guy at all, but he took people's money, and

1031
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.599
you know, his school promoted I got two rings and

1032
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.800
all these weights we get there in the rings, the

1033
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.840
ropes are sagging, and there's it's in a underneath the

1034
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:04.000
shed thing and you take a bump, it's like pavement.

1035
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:06.960
And then the ring they had inside the building was mats. Yeah,

1036
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:11.320
and and hoses garden hoses for ropes. Yeah, that's what

1037
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:13.840
you had to come pay two thousand dollars and go

1038
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:17.360
to you know it was it was not good. No,

1039
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:21.639
that's so I lost a little respect for the guy

1040
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.679
at that for that. But as far as the wrestling

1041
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:25.159
part of it, And then people might say the same

1042
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:27.719
about Crispin Wah, they hate what he did, but you

1043
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:28.880
can't deny how good he was.

1044
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.840
In the ring, you know, right, I mean it's hard

1045
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:32.639
to separate that.

1046
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:35.159
That one. Yeah, that one's a hard one to separate,

1047
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.039
I agree, But if you can do it, you could

1048
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.719
take the wrestling out of it or the negative out

1049
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:42.440
of it and say, you know, he he was damn

1050
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.199
good what he did, Chris bin Wan but yeah, one

1051
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:51.079
of the best, but yeah he uh no, And then again,

1052
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.599
you don't know what's going on in his brain that

1053
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:55.199
you can don it.

1054
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.159
You know, it's such a complicated thing. I mean, you know,

1055
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:05.119
for as long I'd been alive, you know, there's always

1056
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.760
been some kind of concussion thing going on with guys

1057
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:11.199
that have been wrestling for long enough.

1058
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.440
That's been my thing. It's like, I don't know, like

1059
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.280
even here, guys names I've known for years and just

1060
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:23.800
just now, you know, trying to think of guys as

1061
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:26.360
names that I that I know, you know, Sheldon, I like,

1062
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.079
I couldn't remember his first name. I don't what is that?

1063
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.760
Is that just you know, because it's better the moment thing,

1064
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:33.239
or is it because I have a memory issue?

1065
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:34.360
You know?

1066
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.719
I find that I can't remember a lot of stuff

1067
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:39.920
that's short. Like I'll forget stuff that I did like

1068
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:42.800
ten minutes ago. What did I what was I doing?

1069
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.880
And then I'm like takes like someone comes and asked

1070
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.039
me a question about my work job, I shoot job

1071
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:51.760
as they call it. Uh, They'll come in and ask me, hey,

1072
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:53.840
did you talk to so and so. I'm like that

1073
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:56.119
story again, give me a minute, it'll come to me.

1074
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:58.039
Yeah, it's like that.

1075
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.639
It does. Yeah, okay, okay, now I remember you talking.

1076
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.039
You said that. Now it's coming back to Yeah. It's

1077
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.559
just it sucks that I hate it, but it is

1078
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:07.239
what it is, you know.

1079
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.920
Yeah. I mean, have you been like formally diagnosed.

1080
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:14.119
No, No, I haven't really even looked into it. You know,

1081
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.440
I don't have any I don't know what the symptoms

1082
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.159
are other than memory loss. I've looked it up, but

1083
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.320
I don't know if there's any sort of migraines or

1084
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:24.400
headaches that come with it, or shaking or you know,

1085
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.800
anything like that. So ability it might be, you know,

1086
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:34.239
I could end up with dementia. Although my aunt, my

1087
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.480
aunt did have some form of dimensions, so I could

1088
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:38.199
have could be hereditary. I don't know.

1089
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.079
Yeah, I mean, I think that's pretty common for most people.

1090
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:45.199
There's get somebody in their lives going through that. For sure.

1091
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:50.559
Two times in my life, three times, three times in

1092
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.079
my wrestling crew that stand out that I've had the

1093
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.360
worst pain. One time, we were in a hardcore match

1094
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.519
for the tag team Championships for a Pennycult Rust Alliance,

1095
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:04.519
and uh we all sorts of ship and the ring

1096
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.480
we're hitting each other with and I fed around. I

1097
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.960
turned around and the guy Bobby Doll, my trainer, were

1098
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.679
wrestling his trainer and the tag team his tag team partner.

1099
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.400
He hit me with a fucking broomstick as hard as

1100
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.159
he can. It was video of it, right between my eyes,

1101
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.199
and it hit me so hard it didn't bust me open,

1102
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:25.480
but it still felt like blood was coming down my face.

1103
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:31.639
He whacked the ship out of me, and I'm like,

1104
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.280
holy ship, because I wasn't. I wasn't expecting it, you know,

1105
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.480
we again, we didn't call anything, just you guys. They

1106
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:39.480
were actually giving us the belts, which was cool because

1107
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.719
we were over at the time. Yeah, you guys, young

1108
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:44.800
tag team. Our tag team name was New Era at

1109
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:50.280
the time, and you know we and then the second one,

1110
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.559
we are in a tag team match with the rival

1111
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.320
tag team called the Backyard Boards, which actually they did

1112
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.519
come from the backyard. They got their training through the school.

1113
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:03.239
We're we're a ladder match for a contract where we

1114
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.920
had the guy had a manager who was evil manager

1115
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.360
with their services and to get out of it you

1116
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:10.800
had to get the contract. But there was a spot

1117
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.719
where had the chair on the on the ground and

1118
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:15.360
he had but he had it flipped up the other way.

1119
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.239
He gave me one of his signature moves, iification where

1120
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.880
he kind of lifts me up on his shoulders. My

1121
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.280
legs are kind of split between. Yeah, it's like a

1122
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:29.199
modern it's more like a like a dominant or a

1123
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:30.000
power slammer.

1124
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:30.840
Yeah.

1125
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:34.039
Yeah, he just picked me up in my elbow smashed

1126
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:34.760
on the corner of.

1127
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:36.719
The chair with a whip.

1128
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:40.280
You could you could see me do the winds and

1129
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:41.960
I roll out of the ring and the camera follows

1130
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.000
me you could just see him. Yeah, that's never forget.

1131
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:48.679
And then one time I was wrestling a guy who

1132
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:51.800
took over the Kamalo Gemmick h. He hiled himself as

1133
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:55.000
Kamala Junior. He says he was related to the original one,

1134
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.519
but I don't really know if he was. The dude

1135
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:00.280
came off the apron on the floor with an elbow

1136
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.079
with all his weight. I thought he killed me. Dude,

1137
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:07.400
I couldn't Breathe just wracked all the window it because

1138
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.760
he didn't he didn't land on his on his body

1139
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:15.280
first and then and then his weight on me. That's

1140
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:16.920
the first time I ever ever had the wind knocking

1141
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:20.079
out of me in a wrestling match. And they I

1142
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:21.800
had to get up for the next spot, but I'm

1143
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:25.159
like I couldn't breathe for like a good minute. Yeah,

1144
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:27.880
and then he always and then I was like I

1145
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.239
fed up to my hands and knees and he just

1146
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:31.800
whacked me with I was like, just hit me with

1147
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:35.480
the kendlestick, just give me time to breathe. Yeah, whacked

1148
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:37.039
me as hard as he could in the back with

1149
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.280
the kendo stick. I have pictures of the welts.

1150
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:43.599
Yeah, what was the thing that people forget. It was like, yeah,

1151
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:48.559
they're doing this, but they're making full context. Yeah, you know,

1152
00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:52.000
you get fucking whacked with that kind of ship for eons.

1153
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:53.639
It's gonna take its toll.

1154
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.239
Yeah, we had we had some like you see the

1155
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.199
stuff in w W, like the stop signs of UF

1156
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:03.480
they're not they're gimmick, they're not real stop signs. Yeah,

1157
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.360
because they get hit with them and it folds. Yeah,

1158
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.159
I've gotten hit with a real stop sign and it's

1159
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:12.400
fucking pure steel. And don't give those ones I put

1160
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:14.400
I would put my hands on the chair shots.

1161
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:14.840
I wouldn't.

1162
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.159
But some of that stuff we never did light balls.

1163
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:18.519
They weren't really popular back when I.

1164
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:21.719
Was doing it. Yeah, I can't believe how many people attacks.

1165
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.840
Really back then, we just hit each other with stupid

1166
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:27.039
ship cookie sheets and yeah, you know guitar cases or

1167
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:31.519
guitars or whatever else that we trash can lids stuff

1168
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:31.679
like that.

1169
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.840
Yeah. I was one of like some of the real

1170
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.800
wacky hard matches, like even if we shoot on a

1171
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:44.320
like where do they go to buy find these stuff?

1172
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:46.079
Like?

1173
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:49.519
Yeah, I guess that makes the most sense. The tables

1174
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:53.320
and jump um. Yeah, we had one match.

1175
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:58.320
We had a bowling ball, the whole corner spot where

1176
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.239
the guy puts his legs open, goes through their side

1177
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:02.880
and bowls are into his cross.

1178
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:07.199
And it's a classic.

1179
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.960
It's great and it's weird too, because, like, I have

1180
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.679
no problem. I wrestled in front of thousands of people.

1181
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.519
I wrestled before they shut it down at the Dyltan

1182
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:21.440
Houston County Farm Center and Dultan, Alabama, where all the

1183
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.360
legends have come through, and uh, you know in front

1184
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:28.480
of you three four thousand, Scott Sign or Scott Sign

1185
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.280
was on. Scott Simon was on that. No, was Rick Steiner.

1186
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:33.639
I'm sorry his brother which wants a dog face crumb

1187
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:34.360
and that's Rick Rick.

1188
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:35.679
Yeah, he was on it.

1189
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.239
The fake Sting was on it, and the and and

1190
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:40.559
Buff bag Well was on it. Nice show.

1191
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:46.519
I met Buff twice. Actually, how how how was he then?

1192
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:48.079
As far as how he is now, because you know

1193
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:48.400
a lot of.

1194
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.880
I was in high school, so I was. I mean,

1195
00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:56.320
this was right either before or after his short stint

1196
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:04.599
after this, yeah, and yeah, we shot the ship for

1197
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.880
good ten minutes. I waited towards the end of the line.

1198
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:13.760
But like you know, he was always cool. Roade Dog

1199
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:15.639
obviously was probably my favorite.

1200
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:16.920
Oh so good.

1201
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:24.840
There was an independent show. This is back when they

1202
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:30.119
did stuff at good times in the porium.

1203
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:31.760
What are we're talking about?

1204
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:34.960
Yeah, So I went to a couple of shows out

1205
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.519
that way when I was in high school and then

1206
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:42.480
later in my college years and got the ship with

1207
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:45.960
jay Lee's Only a Day Styles for about fifteen twenty minutes.

1208
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:48.639
They were just getting peaches and we were in the

1209
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:52.320
line and shit, and then took some pictures and I

1210
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:55.079
wish I could find the damn things. The nice thing

1211
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.079
about the pictures now is you can all save it

1212
01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:58.199
in one sport.

1213
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:01.159
Exactly funny story about it. Not a funny story, but

1214
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:04.639
I almost got a chance to work n W A

1215
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:09.239
wild Side and Georgia when when AJ was there. Whatever

1216
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.280
reason it didn't go through, it could have been. If

1217
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.000
it turned into a thing, I could have been right

1218
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:16.840
up there with AJ because we started about the same time,

1219
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:21.519
so that that would have been cool. But it's just

1220
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.960
so many squandered opportunities because I never I never traveled

1221
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:27.519
as much as I should have. That suck, I I

1222
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:30.239
sometimes that's I always kicked myself in the butt for that. Yeah.

1223
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:32.400
I wasn't the biggest but I felt I had the

1224
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:35.639
athletic ability in the you know know how as far

1225
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:37.920
as psychology goes, because I said, I learned from Robert

1226
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:41.559
Gibson and Armstrong and all their Armstrong family.

1227
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:51.920
And give every chance to talk with See this is

1228
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:55.800
this is not CD folks, This is this is medical

1229
01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:03.800
marijuana hit right, not Gorilla mods. Uh the guy that

1230
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:07.039
trained Triple H. Yeah, yeah no.

1231
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:08.199
Never got to meet him.

1232
01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:11.400
Yeah, I met him a couple of times. Scary looking dude.

1233
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:18.480
The funniest event I ever did. I booked a a

1234
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:22.119
Royal Rumble watch party at the bar and I was

1235
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:29.320
working at and we got Kenny dykstra Hawks Baker Maria

1236
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:35.079
at the time, and a couple other guys. But I

1237
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:37.280
got to hang out with I got paid to hang

1238
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:40.719
out with Maria. Like that was not a bad night

1239
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:43.800
at all. Here I am, you know twenty something going

1240
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:50.079
wait because yeah, exactly, I'm I'm like writing the driver

1241
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:58.119
right there, Marie, sweet, I adore you. You're great. I

1242
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:02.280
got to I've met Lada when I was in high school.

1243
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:07.119
Nice and I actually had a cameo because my my

1244
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:12.280
wife is a diard hard and I got a cameo

1245
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:16.000
for her birthday. Like two years ago from Amy, So.

1246
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:19.679
I sat with her and Trisha backstage a raw when

1247
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.760
they're doing their thing. Yeah, and that was cool to

1248
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.320
kind of watch them walk through some of the stuff

1249
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:26.800
that they were going to do in their match.

1250
01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:29.039
Or they're both just so fucking nice.

1251
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:34.400
Yeah, like I sit here, yeah, yeah, absolutely, what's in

1252
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:35.039
the wrong spot.

1253
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:37.679
I haven't got to meet critics, but I thought they

1254
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.079
ate me for a little a little while.

1255
01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:41.000
And and.

1256
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:43.679
What a woman that one.

1257
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.960
I wish I could have sat and bsked for some

1258
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:50.000
of some of the people that I that I was

1259
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:52.679
around again, Like they drove in your mind, don't bollow

1260
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.679
the talent, don't bow the talent. But you know, okay,

1261
01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:57.800
what's going on? You bump fist or shake his hay,

1262
01:03:57.880 --> 01:03:58.360
what's going on?

1263
01:03:58.639 --> 01:03:58.840
Yeah?

1264
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:01.760
Actually I talked to uh at this this show of

1265
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:03.559
the Bout for Glory. I talked to Spike Dudley for

1266
01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:04.280
a good ten minutes.

1267
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:06.800
No ship I saw. The last time I saw Spike

1268
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:13.440
he was doing a show down in Flall River. I

1269
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:17.559
think it was a Tough Rope promotions. You know. Daniel

1270
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:19.679
pret Graine.

1271
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:21.079
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

1272
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:25.440
Yeah, he's uh, he's living elsewhere but he used to

1273
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:27.760
be around here and work with Kloski and shit like

1274
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:36.280
that to do charity shows. And I can remember I

1275
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:38.920
just totally lost my train of thought. Jeez, we're we're

1276
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:42.639
a pair. It's like how many chair shots did I get?

1277
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:48.360
Good God? But no, just you know, most of the

1278
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:52.480
time you have good interactions with anybody that's made it

1279
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:56.320
in a decent level. I think it's even better now

1280
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:01.000
you know that we have things like n XT and whatnot,

1281
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:06.440
because I feel like those kids are acclimating to it faster,

1282
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:11.079
and not only the mechanics but also how to interact

1283
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:14.679
with people and how to behave and whatnot. So by

1284
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:18.039
the time they're ready to go, they're ready to go completely.

1285
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:22.880
But the whole even the performance center of the media room,

1286
01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:26.800
you have promo classes, you have all these outlets to

1287
01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:29.880
help you get ready for when you do move up

1288
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.159
or even go elsewhere, you're still prepared.

1289
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.239
And to man, what I wouldn't give to just spend

1290
01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:35.840
the day.

1291
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:37.760
At the.

1292
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:43.480
Like just sitting and watching the ship, listening to stuff

1293
01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:49.039
like good God, that's a dream, that's the thing.

1294
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:54.639
You know, And again I don't I'm kind of I

1295
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:56.800
love wrestling and I always want to be involved. I

1296
01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:59.920
really want to. I really want to start training. Don't

1297
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:03.559
the difference between the South and up here, and it's

1298
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:05.519
not it's not kind of a knock, I guess on

1299
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:10.320
the up here, no one here will give a new

1300
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.039
person a chance. I've reached out to so many promoting

1301
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:17.239
Sheldon did obviously, but yeah, I've reached out to so

1302
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:21.280
many promotions that they're just like now, we're good like

1303
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:24.039
you know, I have twenty years of experience. Over twenty

1304
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:27.480
years experience. I was trained by the best, right, you know,

1305
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:29.639
I have professional not that I really want to work

1306
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.360
shows anymore, but I have professional gear. I have, you know,

1307
01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:37.280
come dressed professional to the shows. Yeah. And you know

1308
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.760
we're down south, Yeah, come on, we need new faces.

1309
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:41.159
Yep.

1310
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:45.719
Up here. I've tried to get booked on shows that

1311
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:47.800
run Clinton. I don't want to put names out there,

1312
01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:51.639
but I've read. I've asked for shows out in uh Worcester,

1313
01:06:52.199 --> 01:06:53.239
out in Rhode Island.

1314
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:56.360
And this is a recently Yeah.

1315
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.159
Well since I've been here. I've been here ten years almost,

1316
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.000
and you know, I reach out every now and then

1317
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.000
when I get to itch. But my true passion I

1318
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:06.920
really want to train. Yeah, you know, and just trying

1319
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:08.039
to get Hey, you know, can I come in and

1320
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:10.760
be obviously I know they don't know who I am,

1321
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.480
but you can find all my matches on YouTube. I'm

1322
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:14.840
not you know, I wasn't bad.

1323
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:19.800
It's not a not a hard thing to get the information.

1324
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:21.840
Yeah, it's like and I just don't get it. So

1325
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:24.719
it's kind of puts me in mood to not even

1326
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:28.119
try anymore, because it's just, you know, I I don't

1327
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:30.480
want to take someone's spot. I'll be a manager if

1328
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:32.840
you want, I'll ref I'll you know, I'm done with

1329
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:34.079
you know, doing the bumps.

1330
01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:36.559
I don't I mean, as you thought of just going

1331
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:38.920
through the shows and actually like doing a phase to

1332
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:39.679
face with people.

1333
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:43.519
I've thought about that. Again, my old school mentality comes in.

1334
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:46.239
It's like, yeah, I know that's probably the way that

1335
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:49.079
you should do it nowadays. Is but it's like I

1336
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:53.519
can email or text Facebook message someone and say here,

1337
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:55.840
who this is who I am, this is what I'm

1338
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.480
trained by. Here's some of my matches, you know, or

1339
01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:01.800
all my matches five star. No, but here's a good

1340
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:08.519
one that I put out there. And maybe we're well,

1341
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:11.159
you know, we're just not anybody new right now or

1342
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:13.159
anything like that. Just I don't know. It just bugs

1343
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:15.920
me for some reason because I'm trying, I try to

1344
01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:17.560
just want to make people better. I want to try

1345
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:20.760
to help out and still being involved in the business.

1346
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:25.039
And sucks too because I know Sheldon was trying to

1347
01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.560
get something else going, but you know, the kidney thing,

1348
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.079
and you know, he just kind of didn't have the

1349
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:33.199
funds to do it. But you know, we looked at

1350
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:37.039
actually running a training school in where the playground is

1351
01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:40.079
up there by Checkers. There's a school in there now

1352
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:44.000
there's somebody's running. Somebody else gave me their information and

1353
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:47.399
I reached out to him and nothing never never answered me.

1354
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:53.880
So yeah, I always wanted to have a rock club,

1355
01:08:54.239 --> 01:09:00.199
flash strip club in town. There was a building us

1356
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:06.199
from Macis. It's been yeah, that's what if I ever

1357
01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:10.239
hit the Mega books, I'm buying that joint. I think

1358
01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:13.439
right now it's like apartments, but it was like a

1359
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.119
functional wasn't weddings.

1360
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:17.720
And stone something?

1361
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:24.479
Yeah? Yeah, I live right there right Yeah. So yeah,

1362
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:27.560
all the time as a kid, I was like, you know,

1363
01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:30.840
I won't have a rock club there, and you know,

1364
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:35.920
chances are probably ain't ever going to happen, but you

1365
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:39.239
know that that was part of the dream, or you know,

1366
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.640
I knew I was going to get into entertainment. I

1367
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:45.319
knew that it was going to be a fucking hell

1368
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:50.840
of the road. And you know, whether it's been music, comedy,

1369
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:55.520
film stuff like I've done a lot of the Underground Ship.

1370
01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:59.720
But you know, it's just it's so much fun and

1371
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:06.600
I'm really happy what I'm satisfied so far of what

1372
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:09.279
I've done so far in life. But I definitely want

1373
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.560
to get more involved than wrestling in the future.

1374
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:14.680
Yeah, I mean too, I'm right there with you. I

1375
01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:18.520
want to know, I've all of a sudden, i'd even

1376
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:21.119
get my own ring and just setting up my backyard

1377
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:23.920
and training. Yeah, because you know, my son, even though

1378
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:26.720
he's nine, he's he's got out of it. But now

1379
01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:29.000
he's back into it because he's been playing with his

1380
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:32.600
wrestling toys again and action figures and that were put

1381
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:34.840
away for months. He didn't touch him. I actually thought

1382
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:37.039
he got rid of him. Then he brought him back

1383
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:39.039
out and he's been back into it. And who asked

1384
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.600
me questions about moves, how you do certain moves and

1385
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:46.239
don't be doing doing this a school or anything. Don't

1386
01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:47.399
go arcane on anybody.

1387
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:48.880
Yeah, let's not do that.

1388
01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:52.159
But so I don't know, maybe maybe he'll get want

1389
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:53.640
to get into it. Of course I don't push him

1390
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:56.600
into it if he wants to train when he's you know,

1391
01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:59.000
because I look at PROTI lis Son, he's only thirteen.

1392
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:00.600
He's yeah matches.

1393
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:02.039
Yeah, it's crazy.

1394
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:08.199
Negative one. Yeah, he's already got a contract for when

1395
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:12.039
he turns eighteen. They did the same thing to Nick Wayne. Yeah,

1396
01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:16.239
when he turned eighteen, You've got a contract here. So

1397
01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:19.720
kind of makes me man. But I tried to get

1398
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.720
in gc W two because I actually I actually talked

1399
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:26.199
to Gringa loco every now and then I met him.

1400
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:29.520
I met him at a show in Dallas when we

1401
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:33.079
went out there for a W show. We have a

1402
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:36.479
VR group, Big Screen Wrestling Crew, we call it. There's

1403
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:38.720
a VR app called big Screen. We go in there

1404
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:40.680
and we watch wrestling in there and pay per views

1405
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:42.880
and then we do meet and greets. We've met up

1406
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:49.319
for two double or nothing's, and then we went out

1407
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:55.560
to Texas for another pay per view and we did

1408
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:59.279
two Veggas ones and we just did Texas recently, which

1409
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:03.720
was cool. So it's kind of kind of.

1410
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:04.279
What we like to do.

1411
01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:06.880
I make merch for him because I I do all

1412
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:09.560
the I used to have a screen printing business, so

1413
01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:12.199
I used to make all the wrestling shirts for my

1414
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:15.159
boys down and down South, and so so I make

1415
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:16.359
all the merch for our little group.

1416
01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:18.319
Got no, that's cool.

1417
01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:22.079
And I sold most of my my equipment because I

1418
01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:28.399
just got tired of the screen printing process. But yeah, so,

1419
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:32.560
I mean that's wrestling is still my blood. I love it.

1420
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:35.319
Every day I reference it or I you know, I

1421
01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:39.079
always something always reminds me of it. Or I'll be

1422
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:40.880
waiting in line with my son and I'll give him

1423
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:44.960
up work kicking the blake. Yeah, he knows how to

1424
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lock up, so we'll lock up and he'll give me

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an arm wringer. And so what was wrestling is always

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going to be in my.

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In my blood and or be my passion, you know,

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absolutely Where do you see the business going in like

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a flight of year spain anything magnanimous or.

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I think it's gonna I don't know. Actually I'm a

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little worried about w W and t k O