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Season 2 Episode 17: BEAR BRONSON

Season 2 Episode 17: BEAR BRONSON
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Bear Bronson is an American professional wrestler currently signed to TNA Wrestling. Known for his hard-hitting, powerhouse style, he first gained national attention as one half of Bear Country and later the Iron Savages in AEW and ROH. After joining TNA in late 2025, Bronson quickly established himself as a major force, aligning with The System and capturing the TNA World Tag Team Championship. Trained by Brian Myers and Pat Buck, the East Islip, New York native has built a reputation as one of the top heavyweight competitors on the independent wrestling scene and in national promotions.

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What's up, everybody? This is another episode of Bulldog Uncensored.

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We got my buddy prayer Bronson from TNA wrestling open AEW.

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You name it. He's there wrestling open heavyweight champion there.

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What's up, man? Thanks for doing this.

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Thank you for having me. Appreciate it.

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Yeah. So I guess we'll get right to the start. Uh,

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what got you in wrestling in the first place?

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For me, man.

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I mean, it was like, I mean, it's my earliest memories. Uh,

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I don't really remember a time where I didn't watch wrestling.

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I was hooked.

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It was, you know, as a kid, most kids are, uh,

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you know, hooked on power Rangers at first or all

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that stuff. And I was wrestling was my first, it

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was the first thing I ever, it was the first

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entertainment I really ever digested. Um, and my parents are

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just cool like that, you know, cause like, uh, my

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older brother and all my cousins were like super into

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the attitude era at the time. And I was born

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in 1995, uh, So it was at like five years

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old range, four or five years old.

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Where I started really digesting it.

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And I just loved it better than all the other

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kid shows and all that stuff. And it was getting

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so big, you know, not getting so big. It was

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always big with action figures and all that stuff. So

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it was just a lot for me. And that's what, again,

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my earliest memories. My earliest memory is not live, but

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my brother taped it. Undertaker, Mankind, Hell in a Cell,

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King of the Ring, 1998. And that for me, I

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think that was the first piece of wrestling history I

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ever digested at the time.

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You started at a big level, man. Holy crap.

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Yeah, that was my earliest memory of it. And then

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I fell in love with Stone Cold Steve Austin. And, um,

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that kind of car crash style of wrestling. And, um,

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I just loved it. I never fell out of love

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with it. I just, um, it's been my, my whole life. So, uh,

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when I got into it, I mean, I always knew

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it was what I wanted to do. Um, I did

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attempt to go to college, uh, for like a semester

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at the time when I graduated high school.

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But, uh, when I graduated high school, I, you.

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Know, I looked up wrestling schools, uh, And creative pro

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wrestling was, you know, 20 minutes away from me and

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it had just opened. So that was very appealing to me.

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It had just opened and opened by Curt Hawkins or

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Brian Myers now and Pat Buck. And that's where I

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really got my first footing and my roots are in

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that wrestling school. So that's how I got into wrestling,

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literally got into the business. And I just never, man,

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I never imagined myself doing anything else.

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And I'm the.

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Type where it wasn't my dream to, like... I mean, obviously,

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everyone's dream to, like, main event WrestleMania or win a

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world title or something like that. But for me, it

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was to just be a wrestler.

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Like, period.

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So, my endgame was, like, you know, joining wrestling school.

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My best friends were MJF, Max Caster. I knew those

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guys were going... you know, as far as.

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They wanted to go.

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And for me, it was like, I just, my goal

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was to be the cool indie wrestler that like they're

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all friends with, you know? And luckily I've, I've exceeded

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those dreams by a lot. So I'm very lucky and

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I'm very blessed for that, but that's how literally I

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got into the business.

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No, that's awesome. I mean, I, I'm believe it or

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not a few years older than you.

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Yeah.

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I'm 38. So I started watching in 92. Back when

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WWF was kind of shitty.

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Sure.

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Things picked up mid-90s. I mean, I was a huge

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Shawn Michaels mark.

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Hell yeah.

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But my first favorite big man was Ahmed Johnson. And

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I was lucky enough to have him on the show.

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The first season I did this. So shout outs to Tony.

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He's a good dude. Always a big fan. But yeah,

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so I mean, I started with an episode of Superstars.

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I think it was Goldust and Ahmed Johnson going at it.

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Wow.

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Kind of prepping for their Intercontinental match. So that was

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pretty sweet. And then, like you said, Austin came about

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and Taker is my do or die guy, man. Sure.

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Even in high school, I was dressed in like the

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American badass because I couldn't grow my hair out long

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at the time. That's what you get for having a

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cop for a flask. But, you know, it's a whole

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nother story.

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I love it.

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Right. Yeah. So, I mean, I've been, you know, I,

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even though with, you know, my disability, I wouldn't be

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able to actually get in physicality of it. Like I

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would literally work out in my room as a kid

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and just, wrestle a fucking bashing brawler in the bed

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just to keep myself healthy. And, yeah, it panned off. So,

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I mean, it's always been a huge part of my life. Nice.

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You know, independent wrestling, especially, like, once I got into

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high school, I started going to a lot of indie

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shows and doing one that, you know, it was one

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thing to go to Raw or SmackDown or whatever, be

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a part of the whole vibe of it all. But

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when I started going to indie shows... I was like, wow,

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you know, like, I know these guys are all just

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regular people, but, like, I got to get to know

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a few guys that I probably wouldn't have otherwise, just

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in a more intimate setting, you know, yourself included.

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Yeah, well, it opens up a whole other, you know,

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TV wrestling, the library of TV wrestling in itself is

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so vast.

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Yeah.

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And then you.

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I remember what I was like, I was 13 years

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old when I figured out what indie wrestling was. And

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that opens up an entirely different world where it's just

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like so much more, so much different. You think like, oh,

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wrestling's not like this anymore or whatever. And then you

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go to indie and you're like, oh my God, it

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can be, you know? Cause I was always at like,

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I loved ECW. I loved car crash style wrestling. So like,

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you know, for me, discovering at the time when i

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was 13 years old like i was discovering like czw

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at the time and you know tournament of death and

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all that stuff i was like yeah what is you

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know so it's a whole other world.

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Oh yeah for sure no it's next level and i

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think you know between that and underground music like i

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think the the underdog lifestyle is always a thing so

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like i uh i found guitar 10 10 years old

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and i've been in metal bands since i was 20

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Hell yeah. I love it. It might not be a

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high paying job, but I still book shows for other

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bands and stuff like that. So I get a real

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appreciation for all the DIY stuff that goes on with

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indie wrestling. Probably my favorite memory, I was at Good

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Times Emporium down in Somerville back in the day when

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they were still running shows. And I had pizza with

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Jay Lethal and AJ Styles.

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Wow.

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Randomly just said, hey, you guys want to come sit

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with us? I was like, yeah, all right. And then

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a few weeks later, I went to another show closer

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to Boston and Chris Saban and Road Dogg were there.

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And I'm a diehard DX guy. And I ended up

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smoking a joint with him in the parking lot. So

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that was pretty funny. Um, well, yeah, like really cool

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experiences on indie wrestling. And, you know, I've gotten a

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chance to post a couple of events of different bars.

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Like I did the Royal rumble. I think it was

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like 20. Well, I think, um, but we had Ox

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Baker come down, uh, Maria can don't and all those guys.

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So it was, it was really cool to hang out

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with people and just like, you know, I never really

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get the whole like starstruck thing with very few people, but, uh, yeah, it's,

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it's cool to really develop those kinds of friendships. I'm

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always appreciative of that. So obviously, you know, dead giveaway

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with your, uh, entrance music and whatnot, you're into heavy shit. Uh,

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what do you, what do you start off when it

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comes to music?

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So what's funny is my wife is a way bigger

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metal head than I am, like way deeper.

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She grew up going to hardcore shows. She grew up

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going to metal shows.

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She loves hair metal she loves uh not hair metal

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i'm sorry she loves uh like king diamond yeah you

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know like that style um and she you know when

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i had left aw and was trying to reinvent myself

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and trying to.

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Um uh.

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Trying to change my image and try to make it

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more of what I want.

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I had a hard time because entrance music is so important,

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more important than you think. And it was actually her

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idea to use the hammer by Kublai Khan. And when

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she had showed me it, I actually dismissed it at

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first because I was like, there's no way no one's

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using that. Someone out there is using that.

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It's so good.

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And then I spent an entire afternoon really, really searching

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and nobody was using it.

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And I was very surprised. So I was like, hell yeah,

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let's do it. And it was just perfect.

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Yeah. Now, how would you compare that to some of

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your other themes in, like, AEW? Like, do you feel

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like it's a different energy?

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Way different. Way different.

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Way more memorable.

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Way more fitting.

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Even, like, honestly, just my other, whether it's in AEW

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or outside of AEW or, like, indies and stuff, I always...

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used cool music but it was just not like memorable

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or iconic right um like i love like gojira so

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i'd use gojira yeah and um what's funny is like

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the two entrance themes i have now whether it's the

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hammer or in uh tna we have by downstate the

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system right right those are two of my favorite theme

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songs i've ever had and i bumped both of them

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at the gym and I'm like, oh, I'm actually, this

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is cool.

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It's cool to be a fan of your own theme song.

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This is great.

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It's not something generic. Have you talked.

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To the guys in Kublai Khan?

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I have not.

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But I've heard a lot.

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I've heard cool things.

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I'm not as deep because honestly, I'm very one-dimensional when

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it comes to maybe I wouldn't say that, but you know,

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I had a lot of friends that went to hardcore

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shows and all that stuff.

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And I like, I had a lot, I had a

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lot of friends going out a lot.

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And like, whether it was like hardcore music people or

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whether it was like, you know, I played football. So

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I had friends in football. So I had a lot

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of like, I called them ESPN kids. And, uh, I

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just never cared. I never cared about any of that stuff.

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Like I'd go over my friend's house and they're all

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sitting in the living room watching a sports center.

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And I'm like, Oh, like I can't, I, it bores

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me to death. I can't, I can't, I can't do it. Like,

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I just can't.

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And then like, I love music. I love music, but like, I,

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I didn't grow up going to shows a lot just

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cause I didn't really, I didn't have any interest in it.

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I just, I loved wrestling. Wrestling to me was just my,

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my everything. So, but my, my wife did though. She,

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she's been to hundreds of shows. So, uh, her, her, um,

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Her palette is very, very wide when it comes to music.

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Nice. Yeah, so, I mean, you and, well, for those

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of you who don't know at home, Gabby Flores is

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Bear's wife. She is newly signed to TNA. Congrats to

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Gabby again. And the new Limitless Wrestling Champion. Yes.

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Crazy week, man. All in one week.

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Unreal. Crazy. They say when it rains, it pours, but

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sometimes it's a good thing. Yeah, man.

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And I love the rain. I actually have a tattoo

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that says it can't rain all the time.

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Right on.

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Because, in a positive light, because I love the rain, so.

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Yeah, I'm a big girl fan, too, right on.

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Hell yeah.

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Nice.

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Thank you, man.

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Fucking excuse me.

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Yeah, so, I mean, you and fucking, since starting in

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with AEW and the tag division and then kind of

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remolding yourself, like you said, As a singles competitor, man,

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like I saw you in Bear Country early on, and

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I'm like, okay, this guy's got something. The other guy's

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pretty good, but you stood out to me in a

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lot of ways.

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Thank you.

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And, you know, I've always been, like I said, a

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big fan of the bigger dudes like Vader and Bam

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Bam and shit like that. Um, so I get a

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little bit more appreciation than most for guys of your stature, but, uh, it's,

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it's impressive to me how nimble you are considering how

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big you are.

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I get that a lot. I get that a lot.

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Yeah. I, uh, I don't know. And I don't even

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know what to credit to either. I guess put my

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mind to something and.

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Just do it.

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Now, something I've always wondered is, and I don't know

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why I never thought to ask any of my other

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wrestling buddies, but, you know, obviously when you go through

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training and whatnot, you get the basics down and all

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that kind of stuff and chain wrestling and all that. Um,

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how did you come up with like a move set?

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Honestly?

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Um, cause the thing is like, you know, you do

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your fundamental training at school, right? But your, your real

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training is just getting out there and getting on shows. And, um,

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my first few years, you know, I think what's hard

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for newer.

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Wrestlers today is everything is streaming. So you don't newer

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wrestlers today.

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Don't have an Avenue to go out and go fail

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without any repercussion.

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And I did, I had that Avenue. So that was

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good for me.

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And like, you know, those matches, no one ever sees those,

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you know, the ones of my first two years where

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I was stinking up the place and having terrible, you know, like,

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or just, just learning, you know, like it's, that's where

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you get the real training being in front of crowds

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and just learning.

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How that works. And, you know, so I would say

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with a move set, um, I.

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Later on in my career, especially these last two years,

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I've worked very hard on not being pigeonholed into one

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thing because I found if I look back on my career,

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I feel like that would happen to me often beyond

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my control. So like, even with like the bear Bronson character,

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I've had a lot of people throughout my career, maybe,

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you know, like years and years ago, like people would

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be like, Oh, it'd be cool if you came out

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on all fours and growl. And I'm like, no, like

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that sucks.

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Yeah.

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But you know, and, uh, I had to make sure

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I had to make sure everything was tailored to what

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I want it to be. And I'm a very ECW style, hardcore, right.

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You know? Um, so yeah, you know, uh.

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You know, you brought up Bam Bam and I love

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the greetings from Asbury parks, one of my favorite finishers. And, uh,

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that was suggested to me, suggested to me by Brian

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Myers years ago. And I I've used it ever since.

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And I love it. And, um, black hole slam, big

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abyss mark. I'm a huge abyss mark.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, and you know, I'm.

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A pretty heavy set guy. So like I do a

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lot of like sitting on people, you know, Yeah. So

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a lot of using my body as a weapon.

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Yeah.

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And, yeah, I would say my moveset is, I would say,

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heavily inspired. Heavily inspired by, like, those guys mentioned or, like,

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Takeshi Morishima.

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Yeah.

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That sort of style. If you want to talk about

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nimble big guys.

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Oh, God, yeah, absolutely.

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He is the goat of nimble big guys.

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Yeah. My wife actually got me into New Japan, like

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right when everything before AEW went down and actually started up. So,

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you know, the Indies from 2016 to 19 were just insane.

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They were.

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The amount of good wrestling everywhere. It was just nutty.

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You know, so when did you start training?

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I started training in 2014. So I was not, I

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was not prominent on the indie scene until 2019.

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Yeah.

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So I got like the tail end of that, like

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crazy insane.

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It was nuts.

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Yeah.

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Like I freaking shot the shit with Cody and the

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young bucks for like 20 minutes at a ring of honor.

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So like it was nothing. And now they're on to you.

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You'd be every damn week. Oh yeah. Insane. But yeah,

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huge Kenny Omega fan too. I've always been a big

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fan of his. So, out of the guys that are

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around right now that you haven't wrestled, who's your dream

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one-on-one opponent?

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Well, active right now? Excuse me. My dream one-on-one opponent

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must be, I.

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Would say Kevin Owens.

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Yeah, dude.

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Kevin Owens or CM Punk.

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Yeah.

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CM Punk. Punk is somebody who is always good to me.

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And he didn't have to be because when I was

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in AW I was the lowest on the totem pole

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you could possibly be he didn't have to give a

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shit about me if he didn't want to but he

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did and he was super super cool I know everybody

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I know he's a very polarizing individual but always good

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to me.

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No I mean that's kind of my policy with people

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if you're good to me I'm good to you Otherwise,

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I don't really give a shit.

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And I'm not the type either to where my best

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friends have a muddied history with him. Right.

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But I don't let that judge. I just go by

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my experiences with people. I do that with everybody.

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Absolutely.

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So always great to me. Always door open for anybody

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that needed help. Just super, super uplifting.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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No, he seems like it really depends on what kind

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of environment he's in.

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Sure.

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I think, and that's natural for anybody. But, yeah, so

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if Buck and Kevin Owens make total sense to me,

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I could totally see that. Kevin especially. I think he

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might put on a banger and a half.

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Yeah, I mean, his Ring of Honor days into that

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first WWE run, you know, as a husky kid, there's

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nothing more inspiring than Kevin Owens.

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Yeah. Kevin seen into Kevin Owens, like nothing more inspiring. No.

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And he seems like such a genuine dude.

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Yeah.

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Which is, yeah, I value that greatly.

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Absolutely. For sure. So we got current roster. Um, we'll

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get to seeing you at, uh, in Boston a few

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months ago in a minute here, but, uh, Who would

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you pick from the mid-90s to go against?

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My ultimate answer, of all time, so that's why I

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specified active before because Stone Cold Steve Austin.

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Hell yeah.

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That is my GOAT. That is my greatest of all time.

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There are people who argue who was better, Brett or Sean.

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To me, it's Stone Cold. I put Stone Cold higher

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than anybody.

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No, he transcended a lot of shit.

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Everything.

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Everything across the board. A-plus across the board on everything. Performer,

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you know, wrestler.

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How much money did he make? You know, that too. Yeah.

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The company, a fortune. Yeah. I just don't quote Steve Austin.

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I even lived through Kevin Owens wrestling at WrestleMania 37. Yeah.

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38, 38, 37.

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I don't know what it was. They all kind of

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blend into each other now, but, but yes, Stone Cold

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Steve Lawson. And then I should, you know, the thing

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was like, if anyone's watching and they're like, Oh, how

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come he didn't say a TNA person? That's because TNA

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is like, which, you know, my new home, uh, threw

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me into the mix right away. So I have kind

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of wrestled all my, in the first, uh, what is

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it now? I signed in January. So what is this? Uh,

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eight months now with the company, seven, eight months. And

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I've got to wrestle all my goals, you know. I

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would say the only one, maybe Mustafa Ali, I haven't

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gotten to really wrestle.

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Right. But, yeah, I mean, the Hardys, got to do

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a bunch with them.

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Dude, that was a highlight for me, man. So I

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got tickets to Slammiversary in Boston only about an hour

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away from me, so it wasn't too bad. And, like,

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you and I had just kind of chugged the shit

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a little bit. a few weeks before that, originally.

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Yeah, they believe it was Syracuse, right?

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Uh, no, it would have been Rhode Island.

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Rhode Island, Rhode Island, sorry.

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No, it's not good. Um, but, I was like, holy crap,

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my buddy's wrestling the Hardys? Like, what the fuck?

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Crazy, man. My brother, my brothers were going insane.

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Oh, I bet. I bet. Like, and that place was

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really well filled up.

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Yep.

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You know, I, I thought the production was fantastic. Like,

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It's hard to tell on TV sometimes, like, because there's

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all this camera work and funny stuff. But, like, you know,

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TNA really seems like they've got a good system going

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on right now. Pardon the pun. Nice. Yeah, no. I

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love it. I love it. That ladder spot, man. When

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you got sandwiched in that barbed wire ladder, I was like, oh,

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my God, please.

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There's a funny story behind that.

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Yeah.

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I'm growing a bit of a reputation in the company,

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I feel, where... So I had asked them, you know,

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because The Righteous, I had learned that they were going

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to have a Wicked Garden ladder.

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Right, right.

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Wrapped in barbed wire. And they have a production team

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that does it. And they show... I.

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Knew I wanted to do some of it. I had

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my ideas going into the match.

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Great.

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And I saw the ladder. And I went right to...

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I was like, guys... thank you, but you gotta wrap

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that shit up.

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You gotta wrap that shit up.

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And they said, they were like, well, if we do that,

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we're not gonna have time to clip the barbs.

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I said, don't. They were like, don't? And I was like, don't.

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Don't clip the barbs. I got, it's good.

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I promise.

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They were like, and they were literally like, are you sure?

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And I was like, yes, don't clip the barbs. I

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got this. And it was awesome.

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And then it looked they, they wrapped it up and

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it looked absolutely terrifying.

471
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Yeah.

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Uh, cause that first, the first variation of it, you

473
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couldn't really notice. It was very, very subtle.

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Yeah.

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Then they had that shit wrapped up and it was perfect.

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It couldn't have been better. The production team did such

477
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an amazing job on it. Um, and, uh, I think

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just after, you know, they're, you know, the safety is

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always first and everyone's like, so that's, that's, you know, no,

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no shade on them at all.

481
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They're such a great team. Uh, So they were putting

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our safety first.

483
00:25:56.569 --> 00:26:00.890
But once I've given them the permission, hey, this is

484
00:26:00.930 --> 00:26:01.589
my thing, man.

485
00:26:01.809 --> 00:26:04.519
Don't worry. Just wrap that shit up. Don't even clip it.

486
00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:07.839
Yeah, if I could wrestle, that's exactly how I'd be.

487
00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:10.259
I mean, I got fucking barbed wire all over my

488
00:26:10.339 --> 00:26:13.619
upper shit. Like, I'm all for it, dude. Hell yeah.

489
00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:16.400
Yeah, and it hurt. But you know what? Who cares?

490
00:26:16.900 --> 00:26:19.730
Like, I love this shit. This is my favorite stuff.

491
00:26:20.390 --> 00:26:22.630
And then when that ladder match was announced.

492
00:26:24.089 --> 00:26:26.809
The very first thing I knew I wanted to do,

493
00:26:26.829 --> 00:26:30.609
I was like, I don't care what anyone says. It's

494
00:26:30.650 --> 00:26:35.319
my dream to take the Bubba Ray, Matt Hardy, WrestleMania

495
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:35.599
17 bump.

496
00:26:35.980 --> 00:26:36.380
Yeah.

497
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:37.720
That's my dream, man.

498
00:26:38.140 --> 00:26:40.700
And that's so funny because where I was sitting was

499
00:26:40.779 --> 00:26:46.410
like diagonal from the hard camera. So once you went over,

500
00:26:46.430 --> 00:26:50.210
it was like, oh, there's Bear. Bear disappeared.

501
00:26:50.230 --> 00:26:52.009
Just disappeared, yeah.

502
00:26:52.069 --> 00:26:55.990
Yeah, that's the question. It was intense, dude. Yeah, that

503
00:26:56.029 --> 00:26:58.859
was a fun pay-per-view, man. That was really fun.

504
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:01.500
Yeah, well, you know what? If I could peel back

505
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.500
the curtain a bit, like, we were all.

506
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.160
The entire locker room was so.

507
00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:12.519
I don't even think motivated is the word. We were

508
00:27:12.579 --> 00:27:17.990
all hell-bent on proving everybody wrong because of the... And

509
00:27:18.029 --> 00:27:20.029
I don't need to get into it, but all the

510
00:27:20.049 --> 00:27:22.349
kind of stuff in the air about, like, oh, like,

511
00:27:23.049 --> 00:27:26.940
you know, whatever about the show, which we don't care.

512
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.119
We don't, we, I don't care. I'll say it. We don't,

513
00:27:29.539 --> 00:27:30.319
I'll speak for locker room.

514
00:27:30.339 --> 00:27:32.880
We don't care. We care about us. We care about

515
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:37.079
this show more than anybody. And we, I honestly, I

516
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.640
talked to, sorry, excuse me. I talked to Frankie Kazarian

517
00:27:41.660 --> 00:27:43.230
about it, where I was like, we kind of looked

518
00:27:43.250 --> 00:27:45.549
around and we were like, man, this entire locker room

519
00:27:45.589 --> 00:27:47.349
tonight has an F you attitude.

520
00:27:47.829 --> 00:27:51.230
We're like F for what everyone says, man, we are all.

521
00:27:51.569 --> 00:27:56.559
And from match one, to main event, we all had

522
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.299
an FU attitude to the world.

523
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.720
And the pay-per-view shows for it, everybody killed it.

524
00:28:03.380 --> 00:28:06.660
Oh, 100%. I would love to see you in the

525
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:10.859
Broken Bears. Can you imagine that?

526
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:12.680
Say that again, I'm sorry?

527
00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:15.559
Broken Bear with the Hardys. What do you think?

528
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:17.980
Broken Bear. Maybe at some point.

529
00:28:18.019 --> 00:28:20.460
Like contacts and shit? That'd be crazy.

530
00:28:20.859 --> 00:28:23.569
That would be pretty funny. That would be pretty funny.

531
00:28:24.180 --> 00:28:26.440
No, well, we're all, you know, all roads are leading

532
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:32.210
now to, uh, you know, we're, I feel like coming

533
00:28:32.269 --> 00:28:36.250
out of Slammiversary, we feel a lot of momentum going

534
00:28:36.289 --> 00:28:39.230
into now, uh, lockdown.

535
00:28:39.069 --> 00:28:45.779
In Chicago, uh, August 23rd. And, uh, we are, again,

536
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:47.920
we have that same feeling. I know I do. I

537
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:48.920
have that same feeling.

538
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:55.319
And I'm hurting and I'm, uh, Definitely this year, the

539
00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:57.079
past two years are definitely catching up with me.

540
00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.849
I've been burning the candle at both ends as far

541
00:28:59.890 --> 00:29:00.650
as my workload.

542
00:29:00.670 --> 00:29:03.509
Yeah, you've been on the road like crazy, dude.

543
00:29:04.349 --> 00:29:07.589
Since January, since the start of the year, I am at,

544
00:29:07.890 --> 00:29:09.750
I believe, 92.

545
00:29:08.990 --> 00:29:14.170
Matches for the year. 92. And I feel it, man.

546
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.779
I feel it. And you know what? Everybody.

547
00:29:18.670 --> 00:29:24.849
tna gcw everybody has been extremely accommodating um more than

548
00:29:24.910 --> 00:29:30.579
i could really i i can't even like put into

549
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.519
words how much i appreciate that and then putting my

550
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:38.420
health first but I'm very much looking forward to making

551
00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:42.000
up for it at lockdown because I am I'm looking

552
00:29:42.019 --> 00:29:43.319
to go crazy, man.

553
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:44.680
I'm looking to go so crazy.

554
00:29:46.900 --> 00:29:50.259
So, you know, TNA is back to the whole four-sided

555
00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:54.230
ring like normal. Have you ever wrestled in a six-sided?

556
00:29:55.190 --> 00:29:56.710
I have not, but all my friends have.

557
00:29:57.190 --> 00:29:57.470
Really?

558
00:29:57.569 --> 00:30:02.049
All my friends have. And I hear mixed opinions. Some

559
00:30:02.089 --> 00:30:03.089
love it. Some hate it.

560
00:30:03.529 --> 00:30:07.789
I think anyone who loves it, it's for the fan

561
00:30:07.890 --> 00:30:11.109
aspect of, like, wow, this is cool. But anyone who doesn't,

562
00:30:11.230 --> 00:30:13.670
I've heard, like, it's a rough experience.

563
00:30:14.430 --> 00:30:18.890
Yeah, it seems like mechanically and, like, psychology-wise, it's kind

564
00:30:18.930 --> 00:30:22.140
of like throwing yourself in the deep end, trying to

565
00:30:22.180 --> 00:30:24.660
figure out, okay, can I do this, this, and this? Or,

566
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:27.740
you know, laying spots out. Like, that's got to be tough.

567
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:30.869
I think I would love it because I am not

568
00:30:30.930 --> 00:30:36.750
much of a, uh, just the way I wrestle. I'm

569
00:30:36.789 --> 00:30:38.829
not like a very, I don't run a lot. I'm

570
00:30:38.869 --> 00:30:41.769
not a very, I'm not a flippy guy at all,

571
00:30:41.809 --> 00:30:47.150
but like, I'm not, I'm very grounded. I'm very just

572
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.940
strike heavy, very move heavy. So like, I don't, you know,

573
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.059
I can imagine for high flyers. I can imagine for

574
00:30:56.779 --> 00:31:01.309
guys who, use the entire ring to their advantage guys,

575
00:31:01.369 --> 00:31:03.369
you know, guys who are on the top rope a lot.

576
00:31:04.009 --> 00:31:08.660
I imagine it's tough for them, but yeah, for me,

577
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:10.119
I don't think it'd be, I don't think it'd be

578
00:31:10.180 --> 00:31:10.759
as tough for.

579
00:31:10.700 --> 00:31:13.420
Me, but excuse me, sorry.

580
00:31:13.859 --> 00:31:17.960
Allergies are rough, but yeah.

581
00:31:18.339 --> 00:31:20.319
I mean, I would love to one day if there,

582
00:31:20.380 --> 00:31:21.579
if that's ever a possibility.

583
00:31:22.900 --> 00:31:25.440
But I also love, but I love how we're, I really,

584
00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:27.630
I love our presentation. I love how we're doing things.

585
00:31:27.690 --> 00:31:34.089
So, Yeah, the neon yellow ropes, I love that. I

586
00:31:34.130 --> 00:31:34.759
honestly do.

587
00:31:34.970 --> 00:31:38.130
I love that. I love the yellow ropes.

588
00:31:38.950 --> 00:31:43.259
Yeah, like I'm big on, you know, I watch WWE

589
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.660
a lot lately, and it's just like the white rope

590
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.859
shit just bores the hell out of me. Yeah, right.

591
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.720
I'm like, stick with the colors. Let's, you know, not

592
00:31:52.779 --> 00:31:55.140
keep it weird, but make it make sense.

593
00:31:55.900 --> 00:31:56.119
Sure.

594
00:31:56.140 --> 00:32:01.670
Make it eye-catching, you know. I'm so old school. I

595
00:32:01.730 --> 00:32:05.380
like to veer away when it comes to match types,

596
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:10.640
like being original and kind of creative, but we're all

597
00:32:10.660 --> 00:32:14.339
set up. I'm old school. Just give me fucking four

598
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:18.240
sides and call it a day. That's definitely the way

599
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:18.960
I prefer it.

600
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.279
Yeah, I wouldn't change that aspect. I think TNA as

601
00:32:22.339 --> 00:32:26.609
a presentation, I love everything about it. I would say

602
00:32:26.809 --> 00:32:30.950
my cup of tea when it comes to wrestling or

603
00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:38.579
when I've been asked in the past or if I

604
00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:40.500
even think to myself right now, what do I bring

605
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:42.160
to the table as far as how TNA goes?

606
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:44.720
Because TNA has some of the best wrestlers in the world.

607
00:32:45.299 --> 00:32:52.490
Mustafa Ali, Nick Namath, Eddie Edwards, some of the best

608
00:32:52.630 --> 00:32:54.609
in-ring technicians, in-ring.

609
00:32:54.329 --> 00:32:55.049
Wrestlers in the world.

610
00:32:55.829 --> 00:33:00.140
But if you look at the history of TNA since

611
00:33:00.180 --> 00:33:05.440
the beginning, it has very hardcore roots. And I believe

612
00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:10.119
my role, or I believe my, like, if you were

613
00:33:10.140 --> 00:33:12.299
to ask me, what do you want to do in TNA?

614
00:33:13.059 --> 00:33:16.500
I want to bring TNA back to hardcore prominence like

615
00:33:16.539 --> 00:33:20.700
Abyss did, you know? And, uh, you know, cause those

616
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.049
are some back in the day, those are some of

617
00:33:22.069 --> 00:33:23.769
the most hardcore matches I'd ever seen.

618
00:33:23.789 --> 00:33:24.329
Oh yeah.

619
00:33:25.029 --> 00:33:28.990
Uh, and I believe that's, that's, that is what I

620
00:33:30.250 --> 00:33:34.250
really would like to do with TNA and push those

621
00:33:34.309 --> 00:33:36.569
boundaries as much as I can, as much as they'll

622
00:33:36.609 --> 00:33:41.710
let me, you know, um, which so far it's been

623
00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:42.230
pretty cool.

624
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.519
So, but there's.

625
00:33:45.819 --> 00:33:46.799
So much more. Yeah.

626
00:33:46.819 --> 00:33:50.380
And I've only been here for a cup of coffee. So, uh,

627
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:55.220
I'm excited to, uh, see what I could do here.

628
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.410
See what the boundaries are. I could push here. because

629
00:33:58.710 --> 00:34:04.210
I love hardcore wrestling. That is my thing. I love

630
00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:05.059
hardcore wrestling.

631
00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:06.180
Yeah, same.

632
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.820
Yeah, so that's what I'm excited to see what I

633
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.820
can do going into lockdown, also going into the rest

634
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.480
of this year. I would love to be in a

635
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:17.519
Monsters Ball match.

636
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:18.579
Yeah.

637
00:34:19.099 --> 00:34:20.659
I would go crazy.

638
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:26.099
You know? Absolutely. That's music to my ears, brother. I

639
00:34:26.139 --> 00:34:26.420
like it.

640
00:34:26.619 --> 00:34:27.059
Hell yeah.

641
00:34:27.389 --> 00:34:32.219
Good shit. So, I guess my next thing would be,

642
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.260
you know, if you had to look a little bit

643
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.900
ahead in the future, what are some of your goals

644
00:34:39.980 --> 00:34:43.739
over the next, say, three years? Sure.

645
00:34:44.539 --> 00:34:48.119
So, for me, it's... My goals are a little different.

646
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:50.719
And they've changed along the way.

647
00:34:50.739 --> 00:34:55.489
Where....

648
00:34:55.940 --> 00:34:58.469
I would say the normal answer for any wrestler is

649
00:34:58.489 --> 00:35:02.210
all like, I like the place I'm at now, but like, uh,

650
00:35:02.429 --> 00:35:04.070
the long, you know, I want to go to WWE,

651
00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:07.650
you know, and you, you'll not intentionally, no one's maliciously

652
00:35:07.690 --> 00:35:10.710
doing this, but you'll see a lot of people use

653
00:35:10.750 --> 00:35:14.289
the company they're in as like a springboard to WWE

654
00:35:14.349 --> 00:35:17.250
or a springboard to a W. And that's just not,

655
00:35:17.469 --> 00:35:23.190
that's not me anymore. At least, um, I truly believe

656
00:35:23.989 --> 00:35:30.139
TNA is my home. And, uh, I believe, you know,

657
00:35:30.219 --> 00:35:33.360
cause something me and my wife work on very heavily

658
00:35:33.500 --> 00:35:36.900
is staying present. You know, if you have one leg

659
00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:38.579
on the past and one leg on the future, you're

660
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:44.760
pissing on today. So I, that's something, uh, that is

661
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:48.239
a quote that has stayed with me pretty heavily. And

662
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.050
you know, I don't really worry too much about the future,

663
00:35:54.090 --> 00:35:56.239
unless it's my future of where I am like TNA.

664
00:35:56.599 --> 00:36:00.940
So I'll think about the future there, but like, you know,

665
00:36:01.500 --> 00:36:04.719
I just don't see the sense in it either of like, well,

666
00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:06.250
what if you go to WWE and you go to,

667
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:07.260
and it's like, well, I'm not there.

668
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.119
And I don't even want to, that's not what I

669
00:36:10.179 --> 00:36:11.760
want right now. What I want.

670
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.400
Is, you know, I have a home that's, that is

671
00:36:16.500 --> 00:36:19.570
literally saying, Hey, be you, you could be yourself here.

672
00:36:20.050 --> 00:36:20.789
Yeah, exactly.

673
00:36:20.949 --> 00:36:22.750
You could be yourself here. We are not going to

674
00:36:22.789 --> 00:36:27.010
change you. You just... You get to be yourself.

675
00:36:27.530 --> 00:36:29.469
That's where I look and I'm like, well, why would

676
00:36:29.489 --> 00:36:30.409
I want anything different?

677
00:36:30.969 --> 00:36:31.070
Right.

678
00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:35.389
You know? If anything, to me, that's just greedy. Yeah.

679
00:36:35.630 --> 00:36:38.969
Well, it's the authenticity end of it. Like, you want

680
00:36:38.989 --> 00:36:43.139
to be as authentic as possible. And with wrestling fans,

681
00:36:43.179 --> 00:36:46.099
that's how you get over it. Exactly.

682
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:48.000
And that's how I've... These past two years have been

683
00:36:48.019 --> 00:36:50.500
the best of my life because... You know, I'd actually,

684
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.039
when I had left AEW, I told my wife, I said,

685
00:36:54.059 --> 00:36:56.030
I don't care if I get signed ever again.

686
00:36:56.389 --> 00:36:56.710
I don't.

687
00:36:57.710 --> 00:36:59.969
I just, I need to be, my ultimate goal is

688
00:37:00.010 --> 00:37:03.670
to be the wrestler that I dreamed of being growing

689
00:37:03.750 --> 00:37:07.030
up or be the wrestler that teenage me would be

690
00:37:07.070 --> 00:37:09.269
a huge fan of. And I accomplished that. And then

691
00:37:09.289 --> 00:37:12.670
when I just accomplished that goal, everything worked out for me.

692
00:37:13.090 --> 00:37:16.159
This is the best I've ever done in my career

693
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.019
these last two years. And it's gotten me now to,

694
00:37:19.699 --> 00:37:21.400
you know, TNA kind of like fell in my lap,

695
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.260
you know, it kind of like just was brought to

696
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:24.139
me one day and I was.

697
00:37:24.059 --> 00:37:26.619
Like, Whoa, cool. You know?

698
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:26.980
Yeah.

699
00:37:27.019 --> 00:37:29.639
So like, I would love to awesome. And it wasn't

700
00:37:29.699 --> 00:37:31.639
even my, like, I wasn't even trying. No, I don't

701
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:34.219
want to say I wasn't trying, but I wasn't like,

702
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:38.960
it was never begging or it was never like, I

703
00:37:38.980 --> 00:37:41.019
was just happy with what I was doing. And then

704
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:42.679
it fell in my lap. They were like, Hey, there's

705
00:37:42.699 --> 00:37:45.739
this idea. And I was like, that sounds fun and great.

706
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:47.980
And it looks like room to grow, you know?

707
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:48.079
Yeah.

708
00:37:48.670 --> 00:37:52.219
So, and it's just been great ever since. I have

709
00:37:52.570 --> 00:37:55.900
zero complaints. I love TNA. I love how they, I

710
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:01.260
love how I feel there. I feel like valued, but

711
00:38:01.300 --> 00:38:05.989
also just from the start, I was so welcomed. And

712
00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:08.510
now it's the home, the new home for my wife.

713
00:38:09.170 --> 00:38:09.429
I know.

714
00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:10.730
I mean, how great is that?

715
00:38:10.969 --> 00:38:14.750
What a crazy, you know, that to me, even it's like, man,

716
00:38:15.869 --> 00:38:20.139
what an insane, like, one absolutely.

717
00:38:19.659 --> 00:38:25.019
Insane series of events leading up to today.

718
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.219
Like, uh, now, not only do I have this new

719
00:38:28.260 --> 00:38:30.840
home that I love, but now I'll be able to

720
00:38:30.860 --> 00:38:33.510
go to work with my wife, which is like, how

721
00:38:33.530 --> 00:38:34.130
did this happen?

722
00:38:34.329 --> 00:38:35.050
Yeah.

723
00:38:36.130 --> 00:38:38.730
So crazy. I mean, obviously you guys have both been

724
00:38:38.769 --> 00:38:41.650
in wrestling for a while, but I'm curious, how did

725
00:38:41.690 --> 00:38:43.210
you guys get involved at first?

726
00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:44.889
Sure.

727
00:38:45.010 --> 00:38:49.159
So, uh, so Gabby fell into wrestling. Um, she was

728
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:54.219
not like a huge fan. She, uh, you know, she, she,

729
00:38:54.940 --> 00:38:58.139
she has a heavy football background where she was a

730
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.900
linebacker linebacker for the New York wolves and the WFA

731
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.099
for 10 years, um, was an alternate for team USA. Um,

732
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.579
and also as a power lifting background and a personal

733
00:39:11.619 --> 00:39:14.320
training background. So she was a personal trainer. She is

734
00:39:14.429 --> 00:39:18.449
currently still a personal trainer for, Stoked Athletics on Long Island.

735
00:39:19.739 --> 00:39:23.780
And it was a Long Island-based wrestler by the name

736
00:39:23.940 --> 00:39:26.460
of VSK or in.

737
00:39:27.570 --> 00:39:29.710
AEW who's Jeeves with.

738
00:39:32.099 --> 00:39:33.599
I forgot what the group was called at the time

739
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.579
it was Ari Javari's group.

740
00:39:36.099 --> 00:39:42.630
And he him and others they started going to Stoked

741
00:39:43.949 --> 00:39:46.869
and the trainers there including Gabby were like whoa you

742
00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:48.369
guys are wrestlers like.

743
00:39:48.250 --> 00:39:51.119
What you know and they were like just come to

744
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.699
a show, come check it out. So they did.

745
00:39:54.099 --> 00:39:56.219
And they started coming to the shows as fans and

746
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:02.159
they started loving it. And, uh, that is where, uh,

747
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.250
eventually her and I had met at one of those

748
00:40:05.269 --> 00:40:11.329
shows and, uh, just fell for each other instantly, instantly. And, uh,

749
00:40:12.230 --> 00:40:14.150
that is where, I mean, we fell in love with

750
00:40:14.190 --> 00:40:18.340
each other, like right off the bat. And then, uh,

751
00:40:18.570 --> 00:40:21.449
six months into us dating, she thought, she had asked

752
00:40:21.489 --> 00:40:24.639
me like, what do you think about me trying this?

753
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.519
And if it was anybody else, I think I'd be hesitant.

754
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.940
But with her, I was like, I was like, you

755
00:40:31.179 --> 00:40:34.579
absolutely should try it. Like, I feel like you, you

756
00:40:34.619 --> 00:40:37.940
have all the qualities of what, you know, so she did.

757
00:40:38.019 --> 00:40:40.559
And it was kind of off to the races from there.

758
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.440
Everything had started happening so fast. And, um, you know, I,

759
00:40:45.610 --> 00:40:50.239
I really don't, I don't, take credit really for anything

760
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:51.420
that she's like done.

761
00:40:52.059 --> 00:40:53.820
Uh, if I was to take credit for anything, it was.

762
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:55.949
Just kind of introducing her to this world, I guess,

763
00:40:55.989 --> 00:40:59.590
which isn't even really true. Uh, I taught her how

764
00:40:59.650 --> 00:41:03.130
to wrestle, but you know, as far as like her

765
00:41:03.250 --> 00:41:07.530
run the last few years, like on the independence and, uh,

766
00:41:08.110 --> 00:41:13.130
she did everything herself. Honestly, I know the way it

767
00:41:13.210 --> 00:41:16.550
looks and people can believe what they want, The way

768
00:41:16.610 --> 00:41:18.630
it looks is I got the TNA and now she's

769
00:41:18.650 --> 00:41:19.269
in TNA.

770
00:41:19.670 --> 00:41:22.570
So people put that in the air. But the real.

771
00:41:22.409 --> 00:41:25.389
Truth is, and I'll say it here, like I actually

772
00:41:26.010 --> 00:41:31.030
never pitched for her once. She never wanted me to.

773
00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:35.300
And honestly, she was doing so well. It was never

774
00:41:35.380 --> 00:41:37.219
even really a thought of my mind because I knew

775
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:42.960
she would be successful regardless. And I kind of feel

776
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:48.909
irresponsible navigating that road for her. Where I'm like, yeah, cool.

777
00:41:48.949 --> 00:41:50.550
I'm in TNA, but if she was to end up

778
00:41:50.630 --> 00:41:54.250
in somewhere else, that's great. You know, I would, I

779
00:41:54.289 --> 00:41:56.989
think I'd feel very irresponsible if I had a hand

780
00:41:57.050 --> 00:41:57.329
in that.

781
00:41:58.230 --> 00:42:00.809
So I kind of left it in the air.

782
00:42:00.889 --> 00:42:04.030
And then I had learned something that was told to

783
00:42:04.070 --> 00:42:06.960
me by someone high up in TNA was they actually

784
00:42:07.019 --> 00:42:08.840
found her before they found me.

785
00:42:08.860 --> 00:42:09.800
Oh shit.

786
00:42:10.300 --> 00:42:12.260
So there were, they had kept an eye on her

787
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:13.960
and all that stuff. So I was like, Oh, that's

788
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:18.500
really cool. And yeah, the truth is like I had

789
00:42:18.659 --> 00:42:22.420
zero hand in that. I'm not saying people didn't pitch

790
00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:26.500
for her. I just wasn't one of those people. She

791
00:42:26.539 --> 00:42:29.360
just never really wanted me to in any Avenue. And

792
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:34.329
I respect that fully. So I'm so proud of her.

793
00:42:34.630 --> 00:42:36.750
I care about her career more than I care about mine.

794
00:42:36.809 --> 00:42:37.489
That's the truth.

795
00:42:38.309 --> 00:42:42.869
Or maybe care isn't the word, but I I'm just

796
00:42:42.969 --> 00:42:47.440
so much more like, I'm so dialed in on her career.

797
00:42:47.460 --> 00:42:48.739
I even as like a fan.

798
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:54.380
So, uh, I just let that, I feel weird manipulating

799
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:56.900
the universe and to like, let me try to get

800
00:42:56.940 --> 00:43:01.300
her here or whatever, whatever I've, I've been very hands off. Um,

801
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:06.519
and she has done everything herself at all of her

802
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.280
success is because of her.

803
00:43:09.260 --> 00:43:12.230
So, um, I'm extremely proud of her.

804
00:43:12.889 --> 00:43:15.510
And I get to reap the rewards of it because

805
00:43:16.150 --> 00:43:17.369
now I get to go to work with my wife.

806
00:43:17.409 --> 00:43:18.210
So it's pretty awesome.

807
00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:21.090
No, absolutely. And I know there's a lot of people

808
00:43:21.170 --> 00:43:25.480
out there, marriages and relationships where that doesn't always pan out.

809
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.539
So especially in the wrestling business.

810
00:43:28.900 --> 00:43:30.260
Especially in the wrestling business.

811
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:31.360
Yeah, it's tough.

812
00:43:31.380 --> 00:43:33.500
We see it a lot, but we're very, very lucky.

813
00:43:33.980 --> 00:43:38.570
No, definitely. Yeah. Cool, man. Ever think about going in

814
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:42.380
after some intergender titles with her? Yeah.

815
00:43:42.420 --> 00:43:44.619
So we have in the, uh, independent scene.

816
00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:45.559
Yeah.

817
00:43:45.579 --> 00:43:48.920
Um, especially with like GCW, GCW is such a huge

818
00:43:48.980 --> 00:43:53.750
part of her career and mine as well. Um, honestly,

819
00:43:53.769 --> 00:43:56.909
an extremely pivotal part of both of our careers was, was,

820
00:43:57.030 --> 00:43:58.309
was game changer wrestling.

821
00:43:58.929 --> 00:44:01.670
And, uh, for me, it was with the death match stuff,

822
00:44:02.889 --> 00:44:06.159
but for her, it was wrestling men.

823
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.039
And it was a place for her to wrestle top

824
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.469
stars like Manders and Jordan Oliver and, these guys who

825
00:44:12.489 --> 00:44:13.309
will push her.

826
00:44:13.329 --> 00:44:18.699
Yeah. And, you know, uh, they have, and those are

827
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.000
some of her best matches.

828
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.519
Yeah. So, and then when, you know, with your question

829
00:44:22.539 --> 00:44:25.159
with the intergender titles, like one of my favorite matches

830
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:28.500
was in Hartford, Connecticut this year, uh, me and gab

831
00:44:28.539 --> 00:44:31.630
versus busted in the brain is one of my favorite matches.

832
00:44:32.550 --> 00:44:35.030
Um, so that's been very, very cool.

833
00:44:35.530 --> 00:44:39.849
Uh, and I don't know, it's very hard to predict, uh,

834
00:44:40.809 --> 00:44:44.190
intergender wrestling's place on a TV level.

835
00:44:45.230 --> 00:44:48.610
Obviously, I would hope. But, you know, even.

836
00:44:48.750 --> 00:44:52.409
It's tough because even she had just defeated Dijak for

837
00:44:52.429 --> 00:44:54.639
the Limitless Wrestling World Title this weekend.

838
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:57.059
And that was amazing.

839
00:44:57.099 --> 00:44:59.239
And if you're in wrestling as a fan, it's the

840
00:44:59.260 --> 00:45:02.940
coolest thing ever. We had a lot of people watch

841
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:05.860
outside of wrestling. And one of the big questions is,

842
00:45:05.940 --> 00:45:09.469
why is a man fighting a woman? So.

843
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:16.179
There is a very, very sharp divide between the wrestling

844
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:21.360
fans who get it and the casual fans who would

845
00:45:21.380 --> 00:45:24.920
look at that and go, oh, that's not right. So

846
00:45:25.539 --> 00:45:26.860
I think that would be a hurdle.

847
00:45:27.300 --> 00:45:29.099
That would be a hurdle. But there's ways to navigate it.

848
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.239
And they have navigated it in the past. And my

849
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:34.849
thing with Gab is like, you know, if you want

850
00:45:34.869 --> 00:45:37.769
to talk about what you could believe or what you

851
00:45:37.789 --> 00:45:42.050
can't believe, I don't care what you believe in or not. She,

852
00:45:42.110 --> 00:45:44.349
when she lifts somebody over her head, it's real. We're

853
00:45:44.369 --> 00:45:45.849
not turning the gravity button off.

854
00:45:46.289 --> 00:45:47.070
Exactly.

855
00:45:47.730 --> 00:45:49.389
You know, it's one of those deals.

856
00:45:50.309 --> 00:45:51.050
They're impressed.

857
00:45:52.090 --> 00:45:55.750
Endlessly. Endlessly. No.

858
00:45:55.769 --> 00:45:59.269
And I just, I love how much of her personality

859
00:45:59.329 --> 00:46:02.369
shows through with the character. Like the normal thing is

860
00:46:02.389 --> 00:46:03.469
just incredible for her.

861
00:46:04.309 --> 00:46:04.949
It's crazy.

862
00:46:05.710 --> 00:46:08.260
You know, it just, it was something that I was like,

863
00:46:09.010 --> 00:46:10.550
I don't know if this is going to work, but

864
00:46:10.590 --> 00:46:13.429
the longer I've seen her do it, I'm like, you

865
00:46:13.449 --> 00:46:16.409
know what? She's getting it over, and it's hilarious and great.

866
00:46:17.309 --> 00:46:19.429
Me too, even at the start, because that's actually the

867
00:46:19.489 --> 00:46:22.690
Nomi thing goes back to when she was 10 years old.

868
00:46:22.769 --> 00:46:26.389
She's always been a Nomi aficionado, and then she had

869
00:46:26.449 --> 00:46:30.329
wanted to introduce it in wrestling, and I liked it.

870
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:32.960
I definitely was like, I don't want to say I

871
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:36.480
had doubts, because when she had started wrestling, I just

872
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:38.599
wanted my ultimate thing was it has to be fun.

873
00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:42.699
There's no goal of getting signed. There's no whatever. It

874
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.960
was just something she was trying. And I was like,

875
00:46:46.340 --> 00:46:50.079
the ultimate goal is it has to be fun. And

876
00:46:50.139 --> 00:46:52.619
even still to this day, well, maybe not anymore because she's.

877
00:46:52.590 --> 00:46:53.440
Fucking killing it.

878
00:46:53.510 --> 00:46:58.849
But for years, no matter how good she was getting,

879
00:46:58.889 --> 00:47:00.570
no matter how much of a following she was getting,

880
00:47:00.949 --> 00:47:03.309
I always told her, if this is not fun anymore

881
00:47:03.389 --> 00:47:04.800
and you come to me and say, I don't want

882
00:47:04.820 --> 00:47:08.360
to do this anymore, you will never disappoint me ever.

883
00:47:09.130 --> 00:47:11.730
I will pull you right out of this. I don't

884
00:47:11.750 --> 00:47:12.510
care what anyone says.

885
00:47:12.530 --> 00:47:16.550
I don't, you know, this has to be fun and

886
00:47:16.590 --> 00:47:20.960
you have to love it or else it's not worth it. Right. So,

887
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:22.980
but she's, but we've never, we never hit that point.

888
00:47:23.019 --> 00:47:25.239
She's loving it even on days where it's hard. And

889
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.380
even on days where she's not loving it, she's still

890
00:47:27.460 --> 00:47:30.380
got it. You know, she's still, you know, cause we

891
00:47:30.420 --> 00:47:33.960
all hit those days, but yeah, you know, it reminds

892
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:38.110
me a lot of, uh, Chris Statlander. Where when she

893
00:47:38.230 --> 00:47:41.480
started the alien gimmick on the Indies, we were actually

894
00:47:41.619 --> 00:47:45.260
all pretty doubtful. We were all like, I don't think

895
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.539
that's going to work. And she proved all of us wrong, man.

896
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:49.079
So it's kind of the same deal.

897
00:47:49.300 --> 00:47:55.760
She's another one that just blows me away. Yeah. Unbelievable.

898
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:57.239
I'd love to see the two of them go at

899
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.110
it in more recent times.

900
00:48:00.289 --> 00:48:06.409
Yeah, actually, their last singles match was May 11th.

901
00:48:08.110 --> 00:48:11.820
1st of this year. May 1st at Creative Pro Wrestling.

902
00:48:11.860 --> 00:48:14.599
You can check that out. I think it's free on YouTube.

903
00:48:14.699 --> 00:48:17.960
Actually, I think it's on YouTube.

904
00:48:18.860 --> 00:48:24.489
Cool. Yeah, they're both incredible. I think it's refreshing to

905
00:48:24.530 --> 00:48:29.690
see the originality, especially with women. You get the borderline

906
00:48:29.750 --> 00:48:32.670
valets and you get the girls that transition into things,

907
00:48:33.510 --> 00:48:37.840
but they definitely both held their own Who's your favorite

908
00:48:37.989 --> 00:48:39.880
woman wrestler besides your wife?

909
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.179
Oh, that's tough. Of all time?

910
00:48:44.539 --> 00:48:53.360
Sure. Because Gab's also like one of my favorite wrestlers, period, too.

911
00:48:53.449 --> 00:48:57.670
So it's tough. I'd say Megan Bain.

912
00:48:58.789 --> 00:48:59.090
Really?

913
00:48:59.110 --> 00:49:00.489
I think Megan Bain is my favorite.

914
00:49:01.250 --> 00:49:01.690
Okay.

915
00:49:02.190 --> 00:49:04.309
Megan Bain, Chyna, Jordan Grace.

916
00:49:04.889 --> 00:49:05.050
Yep.

917
00:49:05.889 --> 00:49:07.059
There's definitely a theme there.

918
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:11.900
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I've only run into Megan, but

919
00:49:11.940 --> 00:49:15.690
she's always impressive to see what she can do for girls.

920
00:49:15.710 --> 00:49:18.489
I mean, she's really fucking tall. I mean, everybody's tall

921
00:49:18.510 --> 00:49:19.230
compared to me.

922
00:49:19.269 --> 00:49:22.659
Her presence is insane. Her presence is crazy.

923
00:49:23.699 --> 00:49:25.449
And then, you know, I kind of had a theme

924
00:49:25.469 --> 00:49:26.840
there with the ones I named, but if I was

925
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:30.519
to break away from that theme, somebody who I think

926
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.460
is bound to be one of the best in the

927
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:38.019
next few years is Polly Alexa from the NWA.

928
00:49:38.059 --> 00:49:38.380
Yeah.

929
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:40.519
She impresses the hell out of me.

930
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:41.940
Unbelievable talent.

931
00:49:42.380 --> 00:49:46.449
Unbelievable talent. That girl is 22 and she's already got

932
00:49:46.489 --> 00:49:49.590
it in her. Like all the things that she needs.

933
00:49:50.610 --> 00:49:51.289
It's just there.

934
00:49:52.210 --> 00:49:57.309
She's just super. Yeah, no, just super aggressive for such

935
00:49:57.329 --> 00:50:02.920
a small person. Like so aggressive, so loud. So like

936
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.320
captures your attention, whether you like.

937
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:05.500
It or not.

938
00:50:05.940 --> 00:50:08.840
And those fucking drop kicks, man. Holy shit.

939
00:50:09.670 --> 00:50:11.010
She lays her shit in, man.

940
00:50:11.349 --> 00:50:15.059
It blows my mind. Like, she just had a match

941
00:50:15.099 --> 00:50:18.860
with Olivia last week, and that hardcore match was a

942
00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:21.340
lot of fun. Yeah.

943
00:50:21.420 --> 00:50:24.219
Yeah, they were swinging those trash can.

944
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:24.780
Lids at each other.

945
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:26.900
I was like, wow. Yeah.

946
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:33.050
Man, it's crazy. Like, you know, getting to be 38

947
00:50:33.050 --> 00:50:36.210
years old and you're looking at, Okay, when I was

948
00:50:36.289 --> 00:50:38.849
watching Lita and Trish and all that, they were about

949
00:50:38.889 --> 00:50:41.269
the same age. But now it's like I'm on the

950
00:50:41.329 --> 00:50:43.570
flip side of that. So I'm like, oh, my God,

951
00:50:43.590 --> 00:50:46.659
you're young enough to be my niece or something.

952
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:50.519
Oh, man, I'm experiencing that too, dude, as a wrestling trainer.

953
00:50:50.539 --> 00:50:53.420
Because now with Creative Pro Wrestling Academy, I'm one of

954
00:50:53.460 --> 00:50:58.460
the trainers. And, man, I have to bite my tongue

955
00:50:58.480 --> 00:50:58.960
a lot.

956
00:50:58.820 --> 00:51:01.280
At some of these things. It's not their fault they're young.

957
00:51:01.300 --> 00:51:02.320
No, no, of course.

958
00:51:02.909 --> 00:51:04.650
Bro, like, I'll have students that are like.

959
00:51:04.730 --> 00:51:06.969
Oh, yeah, when I was a little kid and the

960
00:51:07.030 --> 00:51:10.000
shield broke up, I'm like, oh, my God.

961
00:51:11.659 --> 00:51:13.019
That's crazy.

962
00:51:13.659 --> 00:51:17.559
Like I said to Olivia, I made some comment about,

963
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.280
you know, being a cuter version of Tully Blanchard in

964
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.349
that match with the way she was just throwing shit.

965
00:51:24.530 --> 00:51:26.369
That's amazing. That's amazing.

966
00:51:26.489 --> 00:51:31.409
She just kind of looked at me like, what? Oh, okay. Right.

967
00:51:32.030 --> 00:51:35.570
Probably has no idea. No, exactly, but it was just funny.

968
00:51:36.929 --> 00:51:37.889
Really fucking funny.

969
00:51:38.170 --> 00:51:42.159
Well, that's with Gab, too, and not in an age sense,

970
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:45.019
but Gab, again, like I said, she fell into wrestling

971
00:51:45.059 --> 00:51:46.139
with no prior knowledge.

972
00:51:46.619 --> 00:51:46.840
Yeah.

973
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:53.090
So, you know, it's funny. This year, she has wrestled

974
00:51:53.130 --> 00:51:55.630
in Cork and Hall in Japan. She's wrestled in the

975
00:51:55.690 --> 00:52:00.340
ECW arena. And she knows the capacity of those things. Yeah.

976
00:52:00.539 --> 00:52:03.119
But don't ask her to name five matches in each

977
00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:06.980
of them. Because, like, she doesn't know.

978
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.639
Right. You know, she knows, like, because Cork and Hall,

979
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.019
you can't not know. You walk in and you're like,

980
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:15.820
you're just walking in and the history is all over

981
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:16.280
the walls.

982
00:52:16.340 --> 00:52:18.820
And you're like, whoa, this place is crazy. But again,

983
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:20.820
she doesn't really know.

984
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:25.389
Right, right. I mean, the appreciation level is completely different.

985
00:52:26.059 --> 00:52:27.440
Completely different.

986
00:52:27.460 --> 00:52:30.179
So I think that's something as this new, you know,

987
00:52:30.300 --> 00:52:34.079
we're getting into this new generation. I mean, honestly, the

988
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:35.860
way I, from my point of view, even at wrestling open,

989
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:39.429
there's like two new generations. Cause there's even younger than

990
00:52:39.469 --> 00:52:42.630
like the DJ powers. And then, you know, there's like, uh,

991
00:52:43.050 --> 00:52:44.030
you see the breadwinners.

992
00:52:45.030 --> 00:52:45.349
Yeah.

993
00:52:45.389 --> 00:52:47.969
Those kids are fucking, those kids are so young.

994
00:52:48.309 --> 00:52:51.369
Yeah. I'm like, since when did they let high school

995
00:52:51.389 --> 00:52:52.190
kids in the ring?

996
00:52:52.269 --> 00:52:56.639
I'm like, I'm like, Oh man. Like, You're making me

997
00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:57.659
feel really old.

998
00:52:58.019 --> 00:52:59.500
Yeah.

999
00:53:00.539 --> 00:53:02.219
But it's cool, though, man. I love to see it.

1000
00:53:02.500 --> 00:53:04.340
I love to see the wrestling business evolve.

1001
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:12.670
And they're all very still appreciative of the past, at

1002
00:53:12.710 --> 00:53:13.710
least in my experience.

1003
00:53:14.210 --> 00:53:17.110
I'm sure some people might say different, but I.

1004
00:53:18.869 --> 00:53:19.889
Think it's a very cool thing.

1005
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:25.690
Maybe my opinion will change when I'm 35 or 40.

1006
00:53:25.690 --> 00:53:27.590
Right now, at 30 years old, it's pretty cool to see.

1007
00:53:27.630 --> 00:53:29.909
I think it's in good hands.

1008
00:53:29.949 --> 00:53:33.690
Definitely. I just love the amount of indies that are

1009
00:53:33.710 --> 00:53:38.559
popping up. I work in underground metal 24-7, so there's

1010
00:53:38.579 --> 00:53:42.320
a lot of parallels to our business and the wrestling

1011
00:53:42.380 --> 00:53:46.900
business as far as multiple promoters, same talent going in

1012
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.590
and out. I've often tried to put together things similar

1013
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.760
to like the territories and the NWA kind of thing

1014
00:53:55.780 --> 00:53:58.360
so that we're all on the same page and not

1015
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:02.039
tripping over each other. But it's tough in today's society.

1016
00:54:02.099 --> 00:54:04.159
It's a little bit harder to get people to work

1017
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.340
together at times, but I love the fact that wrestling

1018
00:54:07.380 --> 00:54:12.840
has become less competitive in an ego sense. I don't

1019
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.900
know if that's true in your perspective, but it seems

1020
00:54:15.940 --> 00:54:16.639
that way to me.

1021
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:19.440
With the performers or the promoters?

1022
00:54:20.099 --> 00:54:21.340
A little bit of both.

1023
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.420
I would say not the performers with the performers.

1024
00:54:25.219 --> 00:54:27.559
This feels the most unified, I would say.

1025
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:28.519
Yeah.

1026
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:29.099
Everybody.

1027
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:30.849
I mean, I think Gabby's a good example of that

1028
00:54:30.869 --> 00:54:35.349
where like, if you saw the reception online of how

1029
00:54:35.429 --> 00:54:37.469
many people were so happy for her, I think that's

1030
00:54:37.510 --> 00:54:40.150
a good indicator of where indie wrestling is or everyone's

1031
00:54:40.190 --> 00:54:44.739
kind of supportive for each other. Yeah. I'm not going

1032
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:46.639
to get into it, but on a promoter side of things,

1033
00:54:46.699 --> 00:54:47.320
not so much.

1034
00:54:47.889 --> 00:54:50.619
Yeah, promoter. Every promoter I know hates each other. I've

1035
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.579
been on for 15 years, and it's not easy. There's

1036
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:56.760
always some kind of drama. There's always some kind of,

1037
00:54:56.780 --> 00:55:02.159
you know, put-through business move or just overreaction to things.

1038
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.570
I think every promoter I know right now hates each other.

1039
00:55:05.590 --> 00:55:07.309
Yeah, it's tough.

1040
00:55:07.389 --> 00:55:09.139
I stay out of it. I stay out of it.

1041
00:55:09.309 --> 00:55:13.710
And sometimes I'm looked at as a bad guy for

1042
00:55:13.750 --> 00:55:16.309
staying out of it, but I don't care. I'm just like,

1043
00:55:16.369 --> 00:55:21.000
I don't give a shit. I'm not a promoter. I'm

1044
00:55:21.059 --> 00:55:22.400
a wrestler. You pay me to wrestle.

1045
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:25.869
Exactly. And there's days where I'd love to just go

1046
00:55:25.909 --> 00:55:29.130
back to being a guitar player and not worrying about anything.

1047
00:55:29.250 --> 00:55:31.809
But at the same time, if you want something done right,

1048
00:55:32.789 --> 00:55:35.949
you got to do it yourself. So I always cover

1049
00:55:35.989 --> 00:55:37.949
my own ass in that particular department.

1050
00:55:39.010 --> 00:55:39.710
Sure.

1051
00:55:40.909 --> 00:55:44.969
So I'm trying to think what else we have on

1052
00:55:45.050 --> 00:55:48.949
cover here. Oh, so like I said, my wife and

1053
00:55:48.989 --> 00:55:52.989
I are big New Japan fans. Obviously, the landscape has

1054
00:55:53.690 --> 00:55:59.090
changed dramatically over the last 10 years or so. If

1055
00:55:59.130 --> 00:56:03.340
you had to pick anybody from New Japan in the last,

1056
00:56:04.380 --> 00:56:08.079
I'd say 20 years or so, who would you want

1057
00:56:08.099 --> 00:56:13.000
to face? I could see you going against fucking Ishii.

1058
00:56:14.670 --> 00:56:15.389
Oh, hell yeah.

1059
00:56:15.750 --> 00:56:17.849
Ishii would be great for you, I think.

1060
00:56:17.969 --> 00:56:19.349
That would probably be my answer.

1061
00:56:19.750 --> 00:56:20.650
Yeah.

1062
00:56:22.309 --> 00:56:24.349
I'd say Ishii or.

1063
00:56:24.369 --> 00:56:24.449
If.

1064
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:29.639
We're talking like last 20 years.

1065
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:34.820
I would say.

1066
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:34.909
Huh.

1067
00:56:43.889 --> 00:56:44.849
Yeah, I'd probably say Ishii.

1068
00:56:45.829 --> 00:56:50.469
Yeah, because I mean, I could see like Tenzan too. Maybe.

1069
00:56:51.349 --> 00:56:52.190
Yeah, for sure.

1070
00:56:52.250 --> 00:56:54.670
He's definitely who I would pick anyway.

1071
00:56:55.210 --> 00:56:57.110
Yeah, I think that's the best answer.

1072
00:56:57.610 --> 00:57:01.269
Right on. Good deal. So what are you listening to

1073
00:57:01.349 --> 00:57:03.090
music-wise lately? Anything new?

1074
00:57:04.070 --> 00:57:04.429
Sure.

1075
00:57:04.550 --> 00:57:11.920
So I'm very, I love, I've kind of been getting

1076
00:57:12.380 --> 00:57:16.989
really back into nu metal. Because I would say the

1077
00:57:17.030 --> 00:57:19.530
last two years I was very into hardcore New York

1078
00:57:19.610 --> 00:57:21.769
Long Island hardcore Like Pain of Truth.

1079
00:57:25.050 --> 00:57:28.039
But I'm also like I.

1080
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.059
Change a lot I feel So like I'm getting back

1081
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:39.639
into new metal I love like You know obviously the

1082
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.820
classic new metal Like Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach And

1083
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:47.469
stuff like that but I also see, you know, if

1084
00:57:47.489 --> 00:57:48.789
you're big on Tik TOK, I don't know if you're

1085
00:57:48.809 --> 00:57:51.429
a Tik TOK guy, but there's a lot of new

1086
00:57:51.550 --> 00:57:53.510
artists that are trying to bring that style back.

1087
00:57:53.909 --> 00:57:58.809
Yeah. Um, there's actually in particular where we're kind of

1088
00:57:58.909 --> 00:58:00.210
a new metal slash.

1089
00:58:00.329 --> 00:58:04.130
Very cool. Oh, very cool. Yeah. So awesome. Oh, that's awesome.

1090
00:58:04.170 --> 00:58:04.869
I got to check that out.

1091
00:58:05.469 --> 00:58:07.969
No, that's sick. I'll send you a link for sure.

1092
00:58:08.070 --> 00:58:15.789
Please, please do. Um, yeah, like there's, uh, I'm definitely

1093
00:58:15.909 --> 00:58:16.250
after this.

1094
00:58:16.269 --> 00:58:18.369
I'm going to be like, Oh, you know, but, uh,

1095
00:58:19.389 --> 00:58:21.489
I even, I even just fell into this Tik TOK kid.

1096
00:58:21.510 --> 00:58:25.110
He's just by himself. He's a one man band, but, uh, is, is,

1097
00:58:25.260 --> 00:58:27.260
it's a band called miscellaneous department.

1098
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:28.360
Oh, okay.

1099
00:58:28.980 --> 00:58:31.139
Miscellaneous department. He has like not a lot of followers,

1100
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.480
not a lot of whatever, but I'm like this, this hits.

1101
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:34.019
I like this.

1102
00:58:34.420 --> 00:58:34.719
Nice.

1103
00:58:35.260 --> 00:58:39.369
Um, uh, yeah.

1104
00:58:39.809 --> 00:58:40.929
Kind of into that new metal.

1105
00:58:41.849 --> 00:58:42.710
Cool. Lately.

1106
00:58:42.730 --> 00:58:44.389
I love like old Chevelle.

1107
00:58:45.019 --> 00:58:49.320
Yeah you know stuff like that um i have i

1108
00:58:49.340 --> 00:58:52.480
love the playlist on spotify wwe pay-per-view themes.

1109
00:58:52.739 --> 00:58:55.199
So yeah yeah you.

1110
00:58:55.139 --> 00:58:59.159
Know um i love i love that playlist so i'll

1111
00:58:59.179 --> 00:59:02.179
kind of like just binge those all day back into

1112
00:59:02.219 --> 00:59:04.429
like i haven't listened to like i went like years

1113
00:59:04.449 --> 00:59:06.630
without listening to lincoln park and i love them again

1114
00:59:06.650 --> 00:59:09.090
because i'm like oh yeah i forgot like you know

1115
00:59:09.550 --> 00:59:12.030
um not new lincoln park i don't really like that

1116
00:59:12.070 --> 00:59:15.969
new album but i love like obviously hybrid theory i

1117
00:59:16.010 --> 00:59:24.019
think is such a yeah goaded album yeah um actually

1118
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:25.079
i could probably pull it up right here let me

1119
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.130
see i actually have a Cause I have you.

1120
00:59:28.070 --> 00:59:30.289
Hooked up to my car. Cause I always do podcasts

1121
00:59:30.349 --> 00:59:32.750
in the car. Right. And, uh, Oh yeah.

1122
00:59:32.789 --> 00:59:34.639
Like I've never been a, uh, I just got.

1123
00:59:34.530 --> 00:59:37.880
To do, I love the original album by primer 55. Yeah.

1124
00:59:37.940 --> 00:59:38.340
They're good.

1125
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.119
Like I never really listened to them. And then I

1126
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:43.920
did this past month and I was like, Oh, these

1127
00:59:43.940 --> 00:59:47.719
guys are sick. And, uh, it looks like that's where

1128
00:59:47.739 --> 00:59:48.179
they kind of.

1129
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.780
Stopped, but you like static eggs.

1130
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:55.760
Sure. Yeah, sure. I like static eggs. They're pretty cool.

1131
00:59:57.409 --> 01:00:01.409
Um, yeah, like that kind of stuff. I love, um,

1132
01:00:03.030 --> 01:00:05.090
I love the band. I've always loved the band stained.

1133
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.639
Yeah. Huge stained guy too.

1134
01:00:07.980 --> 01:00:08.960
Huge stained guy.

1135
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.480
I think Aaron Lewis is kind of a little insufferable

1136
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:14.110
when it comes to, he brings politics and everything. And I,

1137
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:16.079
I don't, I don't like politics at all. I keep

1138
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:19.360
politics out of everything I'm involved in. I just, I hate,

1139
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.880
I hate politics. So I, I went to a stained

1140
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.079
concert and he's a bit insufferable when it comes to

1141
01:00:25.099 --> 01:00:29.260
that stuff. But, other than that it was really I

1142
01:00:29.300 --> 01:00:36.619
loved the show when there was music playing but yeah

1143
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:38.719
or even like the.

1144
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:39.239
Band Flaw.

1145
01:00:40.420 --> 01:00:43.300
Yeah Flaw is good too so good.

1146
01:00:45.090 --> 01:00:50.510
Dry Kill Logic yeah love Dry Kill Logic especially the

1147
01:00:50.730 --> 01:00:56.820
album The Dead and Dreaming yeah yeah Oh, I love,

1148
01:00:58.079 --> 01:00:59.900
when I was listening to a lot of hardcore, me

1149
01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:01.599
and my wife got into Dying Wish.

1150
01:01:01.619 --> 01:01:04.230
I don't think I've listened to that before.

1151
01:01:04.250 --> 01:01:07.230
Dying Wish is a, I would say a more recent band.

1152
01:01:07.710 --> 01:01:16.119
Okay. With a female front lead. And yeah, unbelievable. Really unbelievable.

1153
01:01:16.139 --> 01:01:18.219
There's an album, Flesh Stays Together.

1154
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:19.239
Okay.

1155
01:01:20.139 --> 01:01:24.079
And it's very, very good. I highly recommend.

1156
01:01:24.829 --> 01:01:27.929
Yeah, I'll definitely check that out for sure. Yeah, I think,

1157
01:01:27.949 --> 01:01:30.730
you know, much like indie wrestling, there's a lot of

1158
01:01:31.489 --> 01:01:35.780
underground metal especially that's just so good that people aren't

1159
01:01:35.820 --> 01:01:38.280
really hearing. So I'm trying to do my best to

1160
01:01:39.059 --> 01:01:42.079
help get that out there, at least in the Northeast.

1161
01:01:43.059 --> 01:01:47.619
But my other goal within the next year or two

1162
01:01:47.699 --> 01:01:50.929
here is to kind of bring back the whole rock

1163
01:01:50.969 --> 01:01:55.219
and wrestling thing. my promotion specifically is going to start

1164
01:01:55.260 --> 01:02:00.099
doing metal shows that combine with like yeah I'd say

1165
01:02:00.139 --> 01:02:03.840
maybe four or five matches in between things or whatever

1166
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:07.300
we'll figure it out but I think connecting those worlds make.

1167
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:11.880
A lot of sense yeah absolutely so.

1168
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:16.219
I'm going to talk to the powers that be at

1169
01:02:16.260 --> 01:02:18.099
Wrestling Open and see if we can get those ball

1170
01:02:18.139 --> 01:02:23.090
rolling on that but yeah definitely.

1171
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:23.889
Never give it a try.

1172
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:25.719
Yeah, can't hurt, right?

1173
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:27.599
Yeah, for sure.

1174
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.699
So aside from metal and whatnot, is there anything you

1175
01:02:32.739 --> 01:02:35.739
do on your very little spare time that people might

1176
01:02:35.780 --> 01:02:36.420
not know about?

1177
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.159
I mean, I love movies.

1178
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:42.699
I love movies.

1179
01:02:42.929 --> 01:02:45.429
I just watched Friday the 13th Part 5 last night

1180
01:02:45.469 --> 01:02:49.809
just because I felt like it. I still have to

1181
01:02:49.849 --> 01:02:54.210
see the new Spider-Man, but Again, just making time for

1182
01:02:54.250 --> 01:02:55.389
theaters is pretty tough.

1183
01:02:55.949 --> 01:02:56.530
Yeah.

1184
01:02:57.630 --> 01:02:59.949
I'm a huge video game guy, but I haven't been

1185
01:02:59.989 --> 01:03:04.590
playing lately. I love Xbox, but I'm very, very excited

1186
01:03:04.610 --> 01:03:05.750
for Gears of War E-Day.

1187
01:03:05.769 --> 01:03:09.369
I just played the beta yesterday, dude. It's great.

1188
01:03:10.050 --> 01:03:10.610
Wow.

1189
01:03:10.949 --> 01:03:11.349
Yeah.

1190
01:03:12.050 --> 01:03:13.550
Wow. That's awesome.

1191
01:03:13.929 --> 01:03:14.340
Yeah.

1192
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.059
Very cool. That's badass.

1193
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:19.260
Hell yeah. Oh, man.

1194
01:03:19.300 --> 01:03:19.900
I'm so jealous.

1195
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:24.090
And then hopefully if we see GTA 6 this year,

1196
01:03:24.139 --> 01:03:26.230
if they're actually coming out on the date, it says.

1197
01:03:26.789 --> 01:03:27.429
Definitely.

1198
01:03:28.610 --> 01:03:31.889
I think this is the most interesting.

1199
01:03:33.010 --> 01:03:36.610
Release probably of all time. Where it's the highest, the

1200
01:03:36.969 --> 01:03:38.539
biggest budget for a game ever.

1201
01:03:39.099 --> 01:03:39.719
Yeah.

1202
01:03:39.980 --> 01:03:41.159
With one trailer.

1203
01:03:41.179 --> 01:03:45.519
I know. It's like they're really keeping us salivating for sure.

1204
01:03:45.539 --> 01:03:49.619
There's no, yeah, there's no gameplay. No.

1205
01:03:50.349 --> 01:03:50.769
At all.

1206
01:03:51.889 --> 01:03:55.409
So I don't like it that way. It's kind of nuts. Yeah.

1207
01:03:55.449 --> 01:03:57.170
So that's like really interesting.

1208
01:03:57.210 --> 01:03:59.179
I think that's going to be a really crazy, like

1209
01:04:00.449 --> 01:04:01.989
everyone's kind of like, what are we in for?

1210
01:04:02.050 --> 01:04:04.019
You know? Well, yeah, I think it's going to be

1211
01:04:04.059 --> 01:04:05.239
monumental for sure.

1212
01:04:06.500 --> 01:04:10.199
Yeah. So I'm very, very excited. I think that's really cool.

1213
01:04:10.539 --> 01:04:12.719
So, yeah, I mean, anytime I can make time for gaming,

1214
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:14.679
me and my brother are really big in the rocket league.

1215
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:15.340
Yeah.

1216
01:04:15.769 --> 01:04:18.289
So we love, we love rocket league. Uh, he just

1217
01:04:18.309 --> 01:04:19.739
made me download. I'm not a sports guy, but he

1218
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:23.199
made me download college football. Um, that's pretty fun. It's, it's,

1219
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:25.940
you know, right, right, right.

1220
01:04:26.219 --> 01:04:32.989
Definitely. Cool, man. Well, I totally appreciate your time again.

1221
01:04:33.030 --> 01:04:36.929
I'm glad we got a chance to chat. Um, and, uh,

1222
01:04:36.949 --> 01:04:39.590
hopefully we'll, uh, have you in the wife on at

1223
01:04:39.610 --> 01:04:41.880
some point. That'd be a lot of fun, but, uh,

1224
01:04:44.869 --> 01:04:47.909
I will catch you very soon. I usually see you

1225
01:04:47.949 --> 01:04:52.389
Monday nights anyway. So hell yeah. All right, bro.

1226
01:04:52.449 --> 01:04:54.230
I'll definitely see you soon.

1227
01:04:54.269 --> 01:04:57.320
If any, if anybody watching, if you'd like to follow me, uh,

1228
01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:59.739
you can follow me on Instagram at, uh, underscore bear

1229
01:04:59.780 --> 01:05:00.519
Bronson underscore.

1230
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:03.340
Uh, you can follow me on X at bear Bronson, BC.

1231
01:05:03.980 --> 01:05:06.840
Uh, you could go to my pro wrestling teas website, uh,

1232
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:12.239
my store and pressing keys or on, uh, TNA merge.com. Um,

1233
01:05:13.550 --> 01:05:17.670
And you can catch me on TNA, TNA Wrestling on

1234
01:05:17.690 --> 01:05:23.309
AMC every Thursday night on AMC, AMC Plus if you're

1235
01:05:23.329 --> 01:05:26.579
in Canada on Sportsnet. And tune in.

1236
01:05:26.510 --> 01:05:30.199
For Lockdown in Chicago, August 23rd, live on pay-per-view.

1237
01:05:30.260 --> 01:05:32.199
It's set to be one of our biggest pay-per-views ever.

1238
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:34.760
So we're very, very excited.

1239
01:05:36.179 --> 01:05:39.000
Well, folks, that's another one in the can for us.

1240
01:05:39.579 --> 01:05:57.960
We'll see you next time. Oh, yeah