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Season 2 Episode 16: Chris Dattoli

Season 2 Episode 16: Chris Dattoli
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Chris Dattoli is an NJ-based voice actor who has been a part of various video games, audiobooks, anime’s, cartoons, & commercials, such as “Kon" in the fighter game Konsui Fighter, "Kuroki Maeba" in ReBite: The Psychopathic Chef, Arthur, Marty, and all the male roles in the physiological video game IMAGO: Beyond the Nightmare, & in the video game Brigandine Grand Edition as Zemeckis, Cador & Paternus. He’s also voiced numerous commercials for brands like the NFL Network, Disney, Microsoft, Lowes, and more! In addition to his voice resume, Chris is also an On Camera actor and model and has been featured in numerous on-screen movies, TV shows, and commercials for companies like T-Mobile,FOX, and more! In 2024, Chris won a Voice Arts Award from the Society of Voice Arts & Sciences!

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What's up, guys. This is another additional Bulldog Uncensored today

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that voice actor Chris dark TOI on here New Jersey

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Boy video game fanatic. I've worked for many different companies

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including Fox, Disney, et cetera doing voiceover. So, Chris, thanks

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for coming on the show.

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Hey, thank you so much for having me. It's very

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happy to be.

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Here, absolutely so. Yeah.

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So born and raised in Jersey, yes, sir, born and raised.

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Good deal, Oho Boy through and.

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Through Central Jersey.

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Central Jersey. Okay, so you're not quite on the beach

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rather than anything.

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Yeah, that's middle sweet Spottom right, like Seaside's fifteen minutes

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from my house. Actually, if you ever saw the show

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Jersey Shore, Yeah, one of them, Yeah, one of them

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lives down my street. Oh wow, I worked with another

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one and uh salon. My wife and my kid's got

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the hair out or got her hair done for the wedding.

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Is actually owned by I think Jaywow. Oh okay, yeah yeah.

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So they're really in the thick of it down to there. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's like fifteen minutes away from the house. Man.

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It's beautiful.

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Nice. Yeah, I wish I was a little bit close

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to the water and not so much cold stuff these days.

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Yeah.

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Everything, it's just so bad. It's freezing. It's today thirty degrees.

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Never felt so warm today.

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No, I hear you. It's been getting down real nippy

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up here too.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, how'd you get into voice acting?

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So our friend of mine introduced me back in like

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twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen to a site called Voice Acting Alliance.

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My passion for it started when I was a kid.

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I was always hyper, always did voices, and my dad

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said to me, Chris, I swear to God, when you're older,

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you're going to talk to yourself in a padded room.

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I want to prove them right.

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So you know I do that every day. So yeah,

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a friend introduced me to the website a Voice Acting Alliance,

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and I did like a few like free projects, just

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have fun, like a few band dubs, a few like

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radio plays. And I did one project where an author

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and her publishing company heard my voice and she reached

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out to me and said, Hey, would you be interested

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in doing the audiobook version of my book I wrote?

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I said sure, auditioned for it and I got it,

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and it was actually my first like really big like check.

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I was kind of blown away. I'm like, go, wow, okay,

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this is how much you get a voice acting. That's

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pretty cool. So I got it, and I thought, you

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know what, if I'm going to go this route, I

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want to do it right. So I took it, and

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I invested into training, got coaching, worked with a couple

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of wonderful coaches, work with a couple of bad coaches,

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you know, learned a lot of things along the way. Eventually,

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after working with one coach, made a demo. Then I

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made another demo, then another, and I just sent it

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out to agents. Then I eventually got one agent, did

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some more work, got another agent, and so on and

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so forth, and just kept playing the game for well

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over a decade. And the whole time I was working

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as a chief marketing officer at a company, pretty big company,

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and I was ever really happy there.

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So eventually.

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Quit that job and pursued voice acond the first time,

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which was the best decision and the worst decision I

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ever made, because I was a single father raising two

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daughters in a very small apartment, so you know, I

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had to find a way to make an income and

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get better, you know, pay for you know, health benefits

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for my kids. So but eventually I would get one

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job and then it was to stay me, then another,

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and then just kept getting work and here I am today.

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I do voiceover work full time and somehow snow yeah,

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it snowballed in two while on camera, acting and modeling.

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But when I say modeling, don't be impressed.

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By like the overweight guy over there. I actually just

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did a project just got released from the gov. Uh,

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so I'm the before guy, so you know it's yeah,

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I'm happy to say it to where I'm at right now.

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Right on. So, I mean, I've got my own studios

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last jam Spot for my band, and I've done a

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little bit of work and out of your production. I

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went to school for.

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Awesome use the community.

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College up here, and I've always been interested, but I

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never really knew where to start. I have some relatives,

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but they started back in probably the early eighties, so

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it's a little bit different marketplace nowadays. Yeah, so yeah,

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how did you go about marketing yourself for?

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Well, I'm very fortunate. It's actually what I went to

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school for.

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I went to school for business administration and business marketing,

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so I kind of had a leg up and just

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kind of again taking classes with a variety of voice

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acting coaches because I know how to market myself. It's

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just like, well, how how do I market myself in

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the voice How do I make myself different? What's my pitch?

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And just finding my niche in my field, which was

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doing video games and commercials and did that for many

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many I did a few other projects too, a few

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audio box, I few radio imaging. I actually have a

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background in radio broadcasting and well as well so that

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I want to So here's the thing about radio broadcasting

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voice over work. They're two completely different fields. Because I

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had because I had, I would think in radio terms, right,

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And the second I did and my coach said, like,

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you've done radio before, right? I said yeah. He's like

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you've done it for a while. I'm like, yeah, how's

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you know? Because I could tell because the way you're

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reading the script, it's someone who does radio. So here's

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how we've got to change it. And now I'm actually

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in uh making a radio imaging demo right now because

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I just got I'm getting more work towards that so

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and they're asking it for a demo, and now I

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have to unlearn all the things I learned the voiceover

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to go back to that radio engine sound.

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I'm like, this is really.

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Hard because I used to do it this way, then

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I no longer do it, and now I have to

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go back. It's it's it's just fun. So it's interesting,

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I should say. So, Yeah, just studying. Uh, I still

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take a bunch of marketing classes every day. I'm a

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firm believer, and you always have something to learn. Knowledge

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is a very powerful asset. And once you reach a

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point in your career where you think you're you learned enough,

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you don't have to know anymore. You're doing for failure

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because you're something always changes. Every single year, there's something new,

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whether you accept it or not. Everything changed. One thing changes,

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and you're to stay ahead of the game or try

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to stay you know, as close as you can to

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catching up. So yeah, just learning to Then I would

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just reach out to different publishing companies, creative directors, marketers,

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you know, say hey, you know, I got my own

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little form and I'm like, hey, I listened to this,

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I read this. If you ever thought about bringing over

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to voice over work, here's a study I did where

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you know, just bringing everything to video could increase your

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views by this much, or it could increase your audience

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by this much, and you know, just constantly, constantly reaching out.

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I also took a you get I also took a

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real to courses. I'm also a real estate agent as well.

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I've done a lot in my life because I wanted

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to learn as much as I can. So they have

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something called the Ninja way, which is once you email

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a client, you want to follow up with them, and

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they continuously follow them up until that lead turns into

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a client.

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And so that's the same thing what I do.

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I just follow up and be like, hey, you know,

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there's one client I act Tree was in contact for

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five years with every now and then he finally hired

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me for a job. He goes, You're persistent and I

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like it, So, hey, would you mind auditioning for this?

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I did. I got it, and now I'm doing voice

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over with him, which is fun.

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Distancy and persistency is definitely the way to go for sure.

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The same way in music and all that too.

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So exactly said, get you hear a hundred no's before

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you hear one yes.

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Yes, no doubt. So, going a little bit further back

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in your life, what was your upbringing like?

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So I have come from two Italian military household, two

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Italian parents.

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Uh so it was upset.

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There was never never really any cursing, you know, like

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the stereotypicas of Jewish family and they.

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Say if this, if that, at.

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This, It wasn't.

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It wasn't the Sopranos an No, it wasn't the surprise

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I knows, but uh yeah, my father already now that

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would drop a f bomb. And my mom was very

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very proper, but you know, an Italian household and very

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proud my parents. My father served in the military, so

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it was very strict, and my father was you know,

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whenever I would say, he'd bring me out to say, hey,

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I need you to go mold the lawn.

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Yeah, Dad, i'll do it later. Okay.

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One time I said, yeah, Dad, i'll do it, just

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being a stupid teenager. I'll do it later, Dad, I'll

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do it later. It was two am. My dad woke

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me up and said, hey, guess what it's later stood

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out there with me two am as I mowed the lawn.

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Being so pissed off, he actually told the neighbors what

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I was doing, that what he was doing. So they

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want to get annoyed by hearing Alamo or at two

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am and I'm out there.

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I'm like, I'm going to wake the neighbors. I don't care.

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You said later, it's later, so yeah.

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Uh.

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But he taught me a lot of great things and

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my both my parents did so very uh, very loving family.

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The youngest ati I'm actually the I'm the cheer up gift.

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And what I mean by that is, uh, my parents.

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I have two older brothers. They are six and eight

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years older than me. My father's father passed away suddenly.

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I think he had I think pulmonary idea edema. His

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lungs filled up a fluid, and the story was, I

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unfortunately never met him. He went in, the doctor came

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out and said, hey, your dad's doing good, doing good.

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He went out, came back fifteen minutes later and said, hey,

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your dad's dead, And just like that, my father actually

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I think punched the doctor. And you know, he was

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very upset because you know, he never got to say

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goodbye and everything. My mom decided to cheer him up

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one night, and you know, nine months later I came around.

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It's actually funny.

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The day my mom found out she was pregnant with me,

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both her and my dad went to the another doctor's

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office across the streets and my dad can get a vasecony.

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Talk about getting one that the way out.

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And just two years prior they sold all their baby stuff.

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That's like, really, huh well, all right, what are you

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gonna do? You know, the doctor said when he got

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them a second, The Doctor's like, you know, people usually

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come in before, Hey, this happens.

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So that's too funny. Yeah, I've got kind of a

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similar story in my uh my sister and I are

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eleven months apart. So by the time she got home

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from high school and my dad was like, make you

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feel better. There you go, once you get the recipe down,

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forget about it.

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Yeah. Hey, so were my two older kids there are

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eleven months apart exactly.

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Yeah. So obviously you mentioned video games and stuff like that.

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What was the first game that you fell in love with? Oh?

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Wow, that would have to be I'm gonna go with

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Mega Man playing the old school Mega Man games.

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I don't know. There was something about Oh no, I'm

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very sorry. The very first game.

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I fell in love it was an old school video

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game called I think it was Blastermaster, all very retro.

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The story is the kid had a pet Frog. The

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frog jumped out of its little terranium into a landfill

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outside full of toxic waste, and he got mutated into

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a monster. And now the kids found a high tech

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spacesuit down in that tunnel and that went out to

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save him. So that was there was something about it.

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It was a great game. And then right after that

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was another game called Monster Party. Then it was Mega Man.

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So fell in love with those games because it would

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be a bonding experience of me and my two brothers.

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They would play the game, and then I grew up

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playing one system, and then when they were done, when

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I would play, and we would all kind of like

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huddle around each other and just play video games, just

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watch one person.

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It was way before the days of streaming.

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So that's how that was like o early version of Twitch,

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just watching everyone play video games and.

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I'm not limit let him go at it for sure. Yeah,

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I was a Mario guy initially, and then I saw

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that one along with pro wrestling, so anything to do

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with that from my age five onward was kind of

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you know, until I found music.

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Love pro wrestling.

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I've got a chance to watch it lately, but that

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was a big my favorite wrestler was Undertaker and Shawn

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Michaels Good. Yeah, I was never I think whole comania was.

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I passed them because by the time I started watching wrestling,

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I think it was had to be nineties. When I

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was four. I remember Saturday morning it would wrestling would

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be on for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I remember

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Jake the Snake Roberts.

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I've ever seen what macho man.

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I think I just missed Andre, but yeah, but I

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got right in the peak moment where the attitude error

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came out.

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Yeah. So you're around my age anyway, so that works, Yeah,

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I think so for sure. You know, Sean Sean was

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always great takers, a huge role model all the way

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toward his career for me. And now he's in the

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podcasting so I won't just show quite a bit. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's funny. For like thirty years he would say

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maybe one or two sentences yeah now, and I when

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the second I heard him speak, I'm like, there is

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no way that's his actual voice.

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Yeah, and I'm like wow, uh.

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Because I met Nick Foley years ago when his book

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came out. He was at a book signing and I

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went there and I said, ah, what's it like in

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the ring, He's like, and he was busting my chops.

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He goes like, so I'm your favorite wrestler. Well, I'm

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gonna be honest, it's yeah, he goes, you know what

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he sounds like?

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Yeah?

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I'm like like death, Like what these are? Deeps? No,

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he's got a quite a high pitched voice.

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I'm like, there is no way I heard him like

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not high pitch, but just that accent really threw me.

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He doesn't look like a text center out. But wait, yeah,

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So anybody looking into getting into voice again, what's like

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five things you would recommend to start out?

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Figure out what field you want to get into, whether

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it's uh, you want to do video games, radio, imaging, animation,

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slash cartoons, audio books, make a demo for that, and

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in addition to that, also make a commercial demo because

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a lot of the work you get it is going

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to be commercial. So you can just make like that

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one demo, because I would I would advise people to

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make two demos one whatever field you've got into you

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want to get into, and commercial. But now you can

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just kind of make whatever field you want to get

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into a vet your coaches because ever since the pandemic.

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Everyone came forward and said like, oh yeah, I could

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be a coach. I could be a coach. I could

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be a coach. And they're not qualified. And when I

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say that, it's they only did one type of voiceover

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work and really not so many.

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They may have got one or two jobs.

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Or they'll try to scam you on oh yeah, go

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on this website that takes complete advantage of voice actors.

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Let me sell you a class on how you can

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be rich on it. And then they sell their same

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formula to all their students. And everyone's doing the same thing,

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so they're not going.

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To get work. Be that.

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Have thick skin. You're gonna, like I said, you're gonna

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hear a hundred no's before you see. Yes, you're gonna audition.

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I probably do every year, maybe one thousand to fifteen

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hundred auditions every single year, and I maybe get twenty

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percent of that, probably less. Maybe you know, you got

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to realize it's a marathon, not a race. If it

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was easy, everyone would do it, but only I'm well nowadays,

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see everyone does do it, but there's only a select

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few who reach over the certain threshold where the IRS

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would consider your income actually work instead of a hobby.

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So the numbers are we talking when they look at that.

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So like usually like a lot of times, many voice

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actors would make like part time income would be considered

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around like thirty thousand, thirty thirty five thousand, which if

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you're doing what's called adror ADR work, so let's say

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fundamation not fundamation crunchable. The pay skill for that is

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different than doing ADR work for like a movie or

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doing an e learning. Let's say you get maybe fifty

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dollars an hour you work for four hours, that's two

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hundred dollars.

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Not a bad deal fifty dollars an hour.

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But for one hour, I could do a training video

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for fifteen hundred. So which am I going to take?

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And I don't have to scream, I don't have to shout.

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I just talk how I normal normally talking right now.

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So that's just some like things have changed and everything.

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Do don't be conceded, be confident, but not conceded. You know,

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I'm very fortunate in the voiceover industry. Out of the

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thousands of people I met, I maybe met five jerks

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if that, who thought their stuff didn't stink.

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And budget Accordingly, you're gonna be.

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Afraid when you hear the prices, when you work with

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the coach after you vet them. My thing for vetting

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a coach, sorry, go back and forth lot for betting coaches.

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Make sure it's someone who's been in the industry for

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a minimum of ten years. Make sure they've done a

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wide variety of work, not just dubbing for corunchy role,

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not just commercial, not just audio books. They can have

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a specialty whether they're teaching audio books or they're teaching

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about narration or e learning or automotive that's that's fine,

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but make sure they have like a wife ray and

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they're also represented by several accredited agencies I've seen, and

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it's a shame. I see so many people being take

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advantage of, you know, voice talent who said their coaches

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or some guy who said.

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Oh yeah, I made a million dollars.

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There's one guy who says I made a million dollars

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in voice over work, and I'm gonna tell you how

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you can make money too. And it's just like, all right, well,

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and how many years did you make a million dollars?

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Is span five years? Did you make a million dollars

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your first year? Because it's extreme. I mean, it does happen.

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I do know someone who who's just naturally talented. His

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name's Gabe Kunda. I think he immediately got signed with

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like a big agency and he's a so talented, a

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marvelous singer. And there's another friend of mine who took

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thirty years for her before she found success. She's doing

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voice of work since she was eight years old. Now

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thirty years later, she's actually finding like a lot of success,

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and that's usually kind of the trend. I think overnight

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success takes twenty years. So, like I said, marathon not

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a race that looks at your coaches and budget accordingly,

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because the prices are gonna scare you.

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And most importantly, don't worry.

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If you're not good enough, because you are because in

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voice over work, you know we're gonna go out ninety

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five percent of the time. You do an audition and

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you never get any feedback from it, and then you

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hear the project on TV or a video game of it,

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and you hear, oh wow, they use that voice.

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Oh did I suck? Am I horrible? Am I bad?

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No?

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Just your voice wasn't right.

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I mean, I think I'm People have hired me for jobs,

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but I know for a fact I'm not gonna be

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the voice of Arby's. I know for a fact. You

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know I'm not gonna be the voice of All State.

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I can't do that. I know for a fact I

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can't voice an eleven year old boy. Like no, I

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can't physically do that. Maybe seventeen, depending on how high

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I can get my voice.

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Maybe you know, but.

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You know, it's just like your voice just it's not

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like you suck. If you invest in the right equipment,

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do research and one equipment. Uh. I would also say

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go to a studio for like an hour or two,

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test out different microphones, see what works for you. Because

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I can't say that Senhai should not Sendheiser right here

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is great for everyone where a you know Senheiser MK

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four will be dressed as good instead of the annoyment

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TiAl on one O two. This is all tech and

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I really and I'll talk later about it, but research

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with that. Try that out for a studio. And like

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I said, when you're budgeting, because the prices to do coaching,

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some people will charge three fifty an hour for coaching,

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some people will charge more, some people might charge less.

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But a good coach is gonna work with you and

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they're gonna pull out your strengths and then they're gonna

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come time to make a demo, and that dem is

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gonna cost thousands of dollars. But it's all an investment,

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you know, if you have a good tax accountant to

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write it off. But yeah, that'll be like my five

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and a half six pieces of advice to kind of

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get into voiceover.

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It's a lot getting started.

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But that's something I could talk about all day because

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I just don't want to see anyone get screwed going

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into there, going into the industry. No.

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Like I said, I've been in progress of remodeling their

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space to be a recording studio in the last year

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or two. So you know you're dropping at least twenty

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k to get something like that set up, So I

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can definitely understand doing that. I'm still paying for it.

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Yeah. There's actually a great Facebook group. It's called vo

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gear Exchange is where people selling some microphones, interfaces and

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other things that they don't need. Like this booth I'm in.

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Normally you'll go for close to five grand. I paid

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eight hundred for it. Yeah, guy was selling it was

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eight years old and the guy was selling that. The

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only thing is the door didn't close all the way

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I fixed it, but and it had old insulation in it.

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So I took the insulation out and I put in

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acoustic blankets for it. The microphone right there usually goes

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for about a thousand. I paid four hundred because the

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guy had four of them, and he says, I really

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don't need four microphones like it's used, but used.

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I just talked to it. It was in a smoke

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free home.

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People all the time sell their booths, sell their interfaces,

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sell their microphones for a discounted rate, you know. And

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by discounted, you know, an eight thousand dollars booth can

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go for four thousand or maybe depending on where they are.

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So it's a great way to find I don't want

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to say cheap, but good way to find audio equipment

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that's affordable.

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Now, I've seen a lot of like DII moves and

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stuff like that online. What do you feel is do

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you feel like that's effective or is that more kind

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of cutting corners.

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So they are effective as long as you talk to professional.

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There's a I think Tim Tippets is one and George

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the tech Whitman is another one. You have a pay

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for a consult, it couldn't hurt to pay for an

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hour of their time to find. Hey, here's what I

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want to do. Here's a space I have. I'm looking

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to an investment. What would you suggest? And they give

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some and they've been in the field like a long time,

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and they're called the geniuses of audio for a reason,

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and they'll say, all right, here's what you want to do.

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You want to get some rockwell insulation pad on the walls.

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And there's nothing really wrong wrong with that. I knew

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a guy who did his own DIY booth and it's

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sounds phenomenal. Uh. The first demo on my video game demo,

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I actually recorded that in my own home, my own

475
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.359
like built studio I made out of a couple of

476
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.960
acoustic blankets, moving blankets, I on a carpeted floor. And

477
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:12.000
I just was very fortunate. Had a friend who worked

478
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:14.880
at a guitar center and they were getting rid of

479
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.839
some acoustic phone because it flooded and some wasn't damage,

480
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:21.839
but they had to get rid of it. Yeah, so

481
00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:24.200
hopefully i'll I don't get him in trouble like he

482
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:26.240
he gave me. He gave me some and I'm like,

483
00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:31.720
oh perfect. So yeah, just like talk to a professional

484
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:33.240
just to get like an idea. I like, here's the

485
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:35.240
space I have, how can you how can you help me?

486
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:38.759
And they'll give you right, you know, how to how

487
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:40.400
to do it the right way because.

488
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:43.119
A lot of there's some pretty good acoustic experts on

489
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:44.680
climber and stuff like that too.

490
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:45.759
Yeah.

491
00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:50.119
So but I know, like everyone has like depending like

492
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:54.599
for voice, like what's good for music instruments may not

493
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.319
be good for voiceover and vice. It's different acoustical treatments.

494
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:02.759
Yeah, voice wise, I'm kind of an auto audio technical guy.

495
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:06.839
I like Senhiser stuff too, but yeah, I'm still kind

496
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:08.119
of figuring that out.

497
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:10.920
Yeah, And the thing and the funny thing is, during

498
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:13.680
the pandemic, everyone said like, oh, you have to have

499
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:15.960
this stuff in your studio. One of them was the

500
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.119
Noyman till On one O two, which the mic goes

501
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.000
for about twelve hundred and one to three goes for

502
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:25.640
over like two grand, And I said, I don't have

503
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.119
I'm eventually I got that mic. I said I don't

504
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.880
have that. I have this Sendheiser MK four, which is

505
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:37.039
the same exact thing because Sennheiser owns Noyman. It is

506
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:39.359
literally the same mic, and that mic goes for four

507
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:40.200
hundred dollars.

508
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:41.880
That was the only mic I bought new.

509
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.160
Everything else I bought secondhand and everything works well, right.

510
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.279
No, I mean, it's just a matter of doing your

511
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.519
research and really knowing what you're looking at for sure.

512
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:54.720
So out of all the stuff that you've done, what

513
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:59.359
do you feel like in that most nastural for you?

514
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.720
Whether it was video games, shovel that kind.

515
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.119
Of thing, it's always been video games, and as sick

516
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.119
as it sounds, it's always been villains. I don't know,

517
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:14.279
there's something to there's something cathartic for me to completely

518
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.440
disconnect myself because I'm not a bad person. I think

519
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.720
I'm an Italian from the Jersey Shore. So I throw

520
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:25.240
an F bomb here and there, you know, but I

521
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:30.880
I'm not evil by any means, but like completely disconnect

522
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.799
myself and to slip into that villain role.

523
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:35.839
It's just so.

524
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:39.799
Powerful and I love it and it's just I immediately connect

525
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:42.440
with it and just my mind goes to a different place.

526
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.559
I get psychotic, depending on and afterwards, I'll have to

527
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:47.920
decompressed for a minute or two.

528
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:49.799
But I feel fun. I'm like, that was fun.

529
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.559
I feel like decompressed, like I feel cathartic, like everything's like, oh,

530
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:54.359
I felt good.

531
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:59.000
So you feel like you're doing more like messing again.

532
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.880
I guess you could say when you're doing that kind

533
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.119
of thing as opposed to just reading a script.

534
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:10.640
Yeah, yeah, definitely we can deal, Yes, sir.

535
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.359
So what do the games have you done so far?

536
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.400
One that just came out, it's called Identity V. I

537
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.599
play Burrow believe his name is.

538
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.480
I freaking gotta remember the stuff I do. CONSU Fighter

539
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:33.200
Armor three. It's going through my mind a couple other things.

540
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:36.440
I should have a written down ready fight. There was

541
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.799
one CONSU Fighter. There was a video game called Brigandine

542
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.039
Grant Edition. It was an old school PS one game.

543
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.079
They brought it to America and they were looking for

544
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.359
an English cast. I did a number of characters on there.

545
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:55.799
Actually two of the main characters both well, one was

546
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.119
in between. Let's see.

547
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:02.920
A bunch of other I just have to check.

548
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.599
I'm horrible at that because usually once I do a project,

549
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.039
I usually just forget it and do another one.

550
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:11.680
Yeah, you're under the next thing.

551
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.519
Yeah, you know, I don't. I don't like to too much,

552
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.359
too much focus on a pass role because I don't

553
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.559
want it to define me. I just want to go.

554
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:21.160
I don't want to be very versatile.

555
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.640
Now, based on somebody your experience level, what do you

556
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:28.279
usually charge for your service?

557
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:30.119
It all depends.

558
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.839
I have a list of you know, have a If

559
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.160
there's anything I'm unsure of, this's actually a website I

560
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:39.880
go to. I go to called the Global Voice Acting Academy.

561
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:43.680
They actually have an area which is the GVAA rate guide.

562
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:44.279
Uh.

563
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.200
Friend of mine, David Tobak and David rosenbal Well. Actually

564
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.640
David Tobak I believe wrote it. David Rosenthal is the

565
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.680
president of the Global Voice Acting Academy.

566
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:53.319
Uh.

567
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.559
They made it so right there on the website says

568
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:58.839
rate guide, and it tells you what you should charge

569
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:02.480
for union a non union. So let's say, if it's radio,

570
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.599
for example, for because I'm SAG eligible, I have not

571
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.039
joined SAG yet, still still on the fence about it. Uh,

572
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.240
depending on it. You know, if it's streaming paid ads,

573
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:18.119
what have you. If it's uh, let's say, if it's

574
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.319
a regional you know, if it's gonna be a radio

575
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.640
for one month, I'll charge a little longer four hundred dollars.

576
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.720
If it's a year, I'll charge maybe fifteen hundred. If

577
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:28.680
it's just like a tagline, let's just say the name

578
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.119
product one fifty each depending.

579
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:39.960
So you've mentioned a SAG award type of stuff. What

580
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:43.720
difference does that make when it comes to clients and whatnot.

581
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.880
So it's it's a powerful thing to say, Hey, I'm

582
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.759
a union actor, I'm in the I'm in the I'm

583
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.920
in SAG on the Screen Actors Guild. But there's a

584
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.599
lot more work for non union than union because, as

585
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:01.960
it was a fling to me, you know, hey, it's

586
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.640
it's wonderful to join the union. But no, when you

587
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:10.359
join the union, your competition is Beyonce, the Coeoper, you know,

588
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.359
Tom Cruise, They're all in the union. And that's also

589
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.799
your competition. So you got to ask, is your resume

590
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:21.680
strong enough to join? I think I have, I think

591
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.000
on one job away from being forced to join H

592
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.200
At this point, I feel my resume is contending enough

593
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:31.279
to go join. And also my competition by joining union,

594
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:37.000
my competition are the Tom Peppercorns, the H Todd Harbricks,

595
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:42.079
the your your your involves the Steve Blooms or Bailey's

596
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:43.920
like that's my I have to realize, like I'm going

597
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:47.480
up against them, so and I mean going up and

598
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.160
you know, like I a should like those I'm competing with.

599
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.079
You know, it shouldn't discourage you because joining the union

600
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:55.839
there's a lot more benefits of joining.

601
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:56.160
Uh.

602
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.920
It pays a lot higher higher and uh, being on

603
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.680
set for a union talents that I want to do

604
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.759
on camera work, it's a lot different than none.

605
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:06.839
You know, I'll tell you that.

606
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:08.839
You get a lot more breaks, you get a lot

607
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.799
more money if they're over like by a minute, you

608
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.400
get an extra you know, extra bump in your pay.

609
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.960
It's I'm like, oh really, And I'm not a person

610
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.000
to go out and be like, hey look at me

611
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.440
when I go in the set. I'm very professional. I'll

612
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.319
just trying that to be demanding at all, which I'm

613
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:26.759
really not.

614
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:27.799
Uh.

615
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:31.079
You know, they kind of treat me like royalty, which

616
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.599
I'm like, well, just like royalty. They treat like everyone

617
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:38.319
in sad like royalty. And it's just I'm not used

618
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:39.720
to this. And I go home and I yelled that

619
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:45.400
by my kids and wife, and you know, I'm like, yeah.

620
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:51.640
I get that. Yeah, So anybody that's not familiar with

621
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.839
audio stuff, where's their best starting point with trying to

622
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.200
get into the field coaching?

623
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.400
Definitely want to coaching and think, like, what are you

624
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:03.480
really passionate about?

625
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:03.960
Uh?

626
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.319
Now, I know a lot of people. They're very passionate

627
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.920
about working for a crunch role crunch your role and

628
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.839
doing anime, which that's what inspired me. That's kind of

629
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.119
what I want to get into voice acting. Uh that

630
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.200
in video games. But you got to realize, okay, you

631
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.880
could do that, but no, there is it's a very

632
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:26.519
niche field. They do kind of use the same actors

633
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:27.400
over and over.

634
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.599
And over again. And you have to live in Texas.

635
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.839
So I believe.

636
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.400
In Flower Mountain, Texas around the Dallas Fort Worth area primarily.

637
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.400
I mean, I mean that's the thing. Everyone I know

638
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.880
that works for that company lives in Texas.

639
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:44.000
Okay, so.

640
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:50.000
Yeah, the former Fundamation Studio which now was purchased by

641
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.519
Cruncher roll.

642
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:51.279
Ah.

643
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:53.119
That's great.

644
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.240
So like say, so you want to do more cartoons,

645
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.319
all right, I do like our animation, make that type,

646
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.920
make an animation demo, video games, make that video game

647
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:03.880
dem I'll just think what field you want to get

648
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.160
into and find a good coach for that and then

649
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:11.920
don't sell yourself short. I'm a big advocate against Fiver

650
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:18.199
against another website called voices dot com. The reason being

651
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:21.840
is because you know, they'll take a job. They'll tell

652
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.119
the client, all right, it's gonna cost you two thousand

653
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.039
dollars to put up the job. All right, we're gonna

654
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.159
pay a voice actor. We'll pay you three hundred dollars,

655
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.559
and then they'll pocket the rest. You know, it's very

656
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.280
very sleazy tactics. And hopefully it don't come after me

657
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.440
by me saying that. But and I know for Fiver,

658
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.440
when you do go for agents, when you do like

659
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:46.159
look for agents to get accepted by them, if they

660
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.079
do research on you and if they see you're on five,

661
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.880
they think, well, if you only charge five bucks for

662
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.599
your services, how the hell am I gonna make any

663
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:00.000
money off your voice? Because that's the thing, it's a partnership.

664
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.400
They're making money off, you know, by them submitting you

665
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.719
for jobs. You know, they do get a small portion

666
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.199
of it that can reach out anything to ten to

667
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:11.440
twenty percent. So you know, if your er than five bucks,

668
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:16.880
what's ten, ten, five bucks? Nothing? So yeah, you may

669
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.760
do a lot of them. But I don't want to

670
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:21.679
work that hard. I don't want to do five hundred,

671
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.559
five hundred jobs and one day and rake in you know,

672
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.480
twenty five hundred. I want to do the one job

673
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:29.320
that bas me twenty five hundred plus I get a

674
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:30.559
residual check every year.

675
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:33.280
For five hundred harder folks.

676
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:35.159
Yeah, smarter not had way to do.

677
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.079
Absolutely it don't be that all the time and anything

678
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:41.960
really if you can figure out a better way do it.

679
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:47.880
Yeah, And that also hurts the hurts the voice acting

680
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.320
industry in itself by you taking less jobs. I remember,

681
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.440
you know my father, he's a contract electrician. He taught

682
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:56.440
me something that he says, whatever you do in life,

683
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.000
you put your name on it. Because when always had

684
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.639
a job, I would always see him clearing up other

685
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.079
people's mess and then fix that. And I say, Dad,

686
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:04.920
why are you cleaning up someone else's mess like they

687
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.239
didn't do it, Like you didn't do this. Why are

688
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.719
you fixing up? He said, because that's my name, Because

689
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.079
they're gonna look at this. I was the last person here.

690
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:17.360
I'm leaving good impression. And I'm like, okay, so you're

691
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:18.840
putting your name on it?

692
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:20.280
Sounded advice for sure.

693
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.280
Yeah, so that's why he always charged. He always charged

694
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.800
well for her services. Now there's people in the business

695
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.079
who's gonna undercut, who are gonna say, oh, they're gonna

696
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.679
charge you five hundred, I'll do it for two hundred dollars.

697
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.159
And now people think like, oh, I can get my

698
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:37.599
entire house rerouted for two hundred dollars, you know, and

699
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.840
everyone's like, no, are you kidding me? And you might

700
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:43.719
every now and then you might find a gold coin,

701
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.719
you might find a gem and electrician doing a job

702
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:51.079
for two hundred dollars, but no, I mean, you know,

703
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.079
I'll actually pay a little money versus the guy who's

704
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.159
been doing it for years. I'll pay him the five

705
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:59.280
hundred to you know, rewriire my house versus the guy

706
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:00.960
for two hundred dollars, and then a month later, my

707
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:01.679
house cast.

708
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:02.480
Cash is on fire.

709
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:05.519
Well, that.

710
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.360
Electrician does it for free because he's my dad and

711
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:11.400
he loves the business.

712
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.639
So you know, so far, so good.

713
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:18.440
Yeah, definitely. So outside of video games, you have any

714
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:19.519
other hobbies.

715
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.800
Yes, big advocate. For an advocate, I played Dungeons and

716
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:24.519
Dragons a lot.

717
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:25.480
Big nerd.

718
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.280
Love to go to the beach, love to hang out

719
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.559
with my family. I'm the big you know, big family man.

720
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:37.000
I love to spend time with them. I'm working so much,

721
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.760
you know, I'm always recording something, filming something, or doing

722
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.840
something I really or marketing myself. I don't have time

723
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:45.199
to will to spend with them. And when I do,

724
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:51.440
it's it's great. Love to go to conventions, have him

725
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.039
into many lately. And when I mean go to conventions,

726
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.400
not as a guest or as a speaker, actually go

727
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:02.280
and enjoy convention, uh, without like my marketing brain going like, oh,

728
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:03.679
go over here, you can do this, you can do this.

729
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.320
Just actually, just because it takes a lot for me

730
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:12.119
to disconnect on the go when it comes down too.

731
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:12.840
Yeah.

732
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.760
I'm fortunately my wife like understands how my brain works

733
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.039
sometimes and we'll tell me, like we're here on vacation,

734
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:25.960
so and uh, I just love to really relax, like

735
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:28.519
is that playing D and D video games again a

736
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:32.360
big one, and sometimes just sit on my porch with

737
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:33.639
a cup of coffee and just.

738
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.360
Yeah, just to do that for a few hours.

739
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.559
Even about the music, do you have anything.

740
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:46.239
Big on music?

741
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:51.039
I grew up in the nineties so early, so alternative

742
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:56.239
Nirvana than punk rock and pop punk rock, then email

743
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.480
all the all the genre and now and then working

744
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.000
in radios made my years of that to all types

745
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:05.239
of music. I'm actually big when I coach, I think

746
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.920
I'm using the power of music to influence you. I

747
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:11.119
actually have a whole playlist on my on my phone

748
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.039
and Spotify of what music that inspires me to get

749
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:17.039
into villains, what makes get into heroes, and it could

750
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.639
be songs, instrumentals, what have you, and just listen to them.

751
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.239
Like my favorite song that if I really want to

752
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.280
get into a dark place, I always listen to the

753
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:30.039
Moonlight Sonata my Beethoven. There is just something very I

754
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.360
think it was probably playing Resident Evil when I was young.

755
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:35.400
Here and them play the piano and there's just something

756
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:40.079
I connect with, just very mind warp Maybe seeing interview

757
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.119
with the Vampire Two with Tom Cruise, there's just they's

758
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.199
just eerie and I just completely lose myself when I

759
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:50.320
hear that, and I'll use that to inspire. I use

760
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.880
that to meditate too, because that's that's a big thing.

761
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.679
You have to clear your mind out of all the

762
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:57.760
all the junk, you know, just kind of sit there

763
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:58.239
and just.

764
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.639
Like now it's truly hard with the information we're all

765
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.039
processing at a given time.

766
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:05.400
Exactly.

767
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:10.280
Yeah, especially now, and my wife. This always annoys my wife.

768
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.039
What I'll do is when we watch a show or

769
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.760
we watch a movie, I never watch it. I always

770
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.360
kind of like pick it apart. I'm like, oh they

771
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.639
want with that type of feeling filtering light. Oh they

772
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.880
use them that. Okay, So I see the way they

773
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:25.400
shot that shot, look at me and go, can you

774
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:29.159
stock you just enjoyed the freaking show? And I'll go,

775
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.760
all right, all right, So now I actually will watch

776
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:33.400
a movie. Then I'll go back and buy second.

777
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.079
Yeah, I'm like that. With music, I mean I would

778
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:43.760
been since then. I was nineteen, and I leaned towards

779
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.400
the heavy metal stuff, but I'd played everything country blows.

780
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.679
That's actually, uh what attracted me to my wife.

781
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:56.239
I met her on a Plenty of Fish and her

782
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:58.880
screen name was metal Chick, and I'm.

783
00:40:58.679 --> 00:40:59.639
Like, huh.

784
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.119
I'm like, I wonder because I actually swept. I'm like, oh,

785
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:04.840
she's too She's too hot for me. There's no way.

786
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:06.599
I'm like, oh, you know what. Then I went and

787
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.159
read a profile. I'm like, you know, shoot your shot,

788
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.559
and yeah, she likes Slipknot. I like Slipknot. The biggest

789
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.639
regret in my life is when I worked at the

790
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.559
local radio station in Jersey. They had a concert and

791
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.239
Stone Sour. We were taking care of them, and this

792
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:26.760
is kind of the very very early days of the internet,

793
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.880
so I had no idea the lead singer of Stone

794
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:33.719
Snout Stone Sour was the lead singer of Slipknot, and

795
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.760
another band Memoir was also in Slipknot.

796
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.239
So we have me and the few crew members.

797
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:40.960
Were talking and I mentioned Slipknot and one of the

798
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.760
guy goes, oh, you like Slipknot, and like he grabbed

799
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:45.639
me and brought me over to Corey Taylor. I goes, hey, Corey,

800
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.360
this guy thinks some music sucks. I'm like, oh no, no, no,

801
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.840
I didn't say that. He goes, oh, you think you're hot,

802
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.400
you have hot shit? Huh, Well, what's around my music?

803
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:55.480
I'm like, well, I like you music, it's just I

804
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.320
prefer Slipknot. And he completely messed with me. Was like,

805
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:02.719
he goes like, yeah, he likes the lead singer, and

806
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.000
I think behind him. He goes like, no, it's you.

807
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.039
So oh he messed me. He's like, oh f slipknot

808
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.000
there are buns of assholes. You gotta listen to my music.

809
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.039
You want to listen to Chrystian rock and all this stuff.

810
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.679
And he just like ripped me apart. And then like

811
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.960
I found out, you know, four weeks like three weeks later,

812
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.280
and they'm like, dude, that's the lead singer or some whatnot.

813
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.400
I'm like, no, it's not like listen to his voice.

814
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:30.559
I'm like, oh, like it just dawned on me.

815
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:31.320
Right.

816
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:36.679
Oh, that explains a lot.

817
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.199
I don't know Corey personally, but anybody that I know

818
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:44.280
of it does know him. That's a very accurate description

819
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.039
of what he would do to people like that. Yeah,

820
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:48.000
that's pretty.

821
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:49.760
Twenty years ago in two thousand and six.

822
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.679
But yeah, like I said, I've been doing the heavy

823
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:58.599
metal things since probably two thousand and eight. They're a

824
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:03.079
boves uh you know. I've enter chance still open for

825
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:11.360
Static X after Wayne died. Buck Cherry put Blackstone Cherry

826
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:17.440
power Land five thousand by was my my favorite experience

827
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.880
so far my career, opening for a national Plus, there's

828
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.320
a ton of unsigned bands that are arguably been here

829
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:29.400
on major labels nowadays. Well, I fell in love with

830
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.639
the underground because of it, and so I've been a

831
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.840
big advocate for them by bands on certainly Call Records

832
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:42.639
were out of tap afforda. We just recently got signed

833
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:47.000
by them two years ago, small small label. You know,

834
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:50.559
we're it's still pretty much the y thing, but it

835
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:55.519
points in the right direction. Yeah, But like you said, Bland,

836
00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:00.480
the long game, eventually you get it, yes, And you know,

837
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.119
you compla that with a few thousand dollars and you

838
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.960
find your way on to the mixed level. So that's

839
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.760
kind of where I'm at. I do the podcast stuff

840
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.239
to kind of network and keep my options open because

841
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.920
I'm always doing something different and I'm kind of a

842
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.760
jack of all trades master and none to play. Bank

843
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:22.079
account doesn't reflect my passion, but you know, I do

844
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.280
what I can for sure.

845
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.360
Hey listen, it's they sell you doing what you love,

846
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.719
and that's awesome. That's I think that's something everyone The

847
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:33.280
dream is to just for everyone to do what they

848
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:34.679
love and get paid for it.

849
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.159
And I think, and I tell people all the time,

850
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.079
it's like, I'm not trying to be a millionaire. I

851
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:42.000
just want to live comfortably and get off for freaking

852
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:46.679
state assistance for disability yeah, and just have that control again.

853
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:50.920
Everything nowadays is freaking expensive living in Jersey. You know,

854
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.320
I flipped out because, uh, just a bagel of cream

855
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.920
trees at one place cost me seven dollars and I said,

856
00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:58.079
I'm never going there again.

857
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.320
Yeah, and sure enough everything.

858
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.119
And I'm like, what the I'm like, what the hell?

859
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:06.559
But bagels gets cost so much money?

860
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.480
Yeah, you know what I noticed about that. I was

861
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.800
at the flower Cy the other day. Well, the prices

862
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:18.960
of batteries. Dude, it's absurd. But you're playing fourteen bucks

863
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:22.719
for two nine bolts, holy trap, It's insane.

864
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:27.960
Yeah, it's that's why I tell everyone, like, don't be

865
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.840
afraid of like the costs, right right, It's just remember

866
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.679
spending money on yourself and your business, because when you

867
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.000
become a voice actor, you essentially open up your own business.

868
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.400
You know, it's never an expense, it's an investment. You

869
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.760
just have to remember that, and you have to actually

870
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.239
pay attention. When we take the class. You know we're

871
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.599
gonna be enticed by someone saying like, oh, you can

872
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.480
make money now, you can make money now, you can

873
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.719
you know, do this, do this, and you think, hey,

874
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:56.679
you know, I got three hundred bucks for doing a

875
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.159
video game. I'm like, rarely I did the same video

876
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:03.400
game and I got paid for teen hundred right, right, Yeah.

877
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.199
See, I think you know, like you said, you're got

878
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:11.440
to be able to sell yourself. And you know, I

879
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:16.760
think getting a personality that's likable in general will always

880
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.480
help put you in that spot.

881
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.880
Yeah, that's why you mentioned me. In the industry, they'll say,

882
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.440
who the hell is that guy? And those who do

883
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:28.599
know me, they're like, oh, he's a nice guy. Yeah,

884
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:30.199
I got nothing bad about it, you know. And I

885
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.440
always preach like the right way because I'm not I'm

886
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.119
not doing anything to be sleazy, because I don't want

887
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.480
to feel sleazy, you know show biz.

888
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:40.960
Yeah, and I.

889
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.519
Think that the the stereotype phrases, don't be a car salesman,

890
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.800
you know what I mean. That's just I'm not trying

891
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.599
to be, you know, car salesman. I'm just trying to,

892
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.760
you know, be honest, not scam the system, not take anyone.

893
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:57.239
It's part of the reason why I got into real estate.

894
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.679
I wanted to help people get their homes. But once

895
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:03.239
the pandemic happened, people are doing a lot of shady

896
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.719
shit and I just was that's not for me. Same

897
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.840
in voice acting. Oh I could be a coach. Really,

898
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.559
what are your qualifications? What the hell are you to

899
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:11.360
tell me what qualifications are?

900
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:12.280
All right?

901
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:18.159
Just some asshole like and it's amazing When I speak

902
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.920
to them, I'm like, how the hell do I know

903
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:21.599
more than you?

904
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:26.239
Are you supposed to be? Like whatever? Okay.

905
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:29.960
I then instances with that with different producers over the years,

906
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:36.320
so I get it. Yeah, totally. So anything interesting you're

907
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:37.360
working on right now?

908
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:41.480
Uh? Fortunately a few projects I can't talk about.

909
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:43.639
Gotcha, Well those are always the fun ones.

910
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:49.880
Yeah, I'm working on a fun on camera project right now.

911
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:51.960
I actually get to wear a lot of prosthetics I

912
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.679
can't mention. Uh So they told me not to mention it.

913
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:59.639
But I'm always professional and I don't mention projects. So

914
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.239
I'm working on just to cover all bases and everything.

915
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.559
But I always say tell people, hey, follow my social media,

916
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.440
follow my website. You know, I'll post new things as

917
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.320
I go, as I go, or try to, because you know,

918
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.960
I like to. I like to stay busy, and and

919
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.679
this is like it's kind of like the broken plumber.

920
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.960
It's like the plumber with the broken toilet. Hairstylist with

921
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.000
the bad hair, well, the marketers who's bad at marketing.

922
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.400
It's because I just need to find the time or

923
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:32.280
hire someone to do it. It's just finding the time.

924
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:32.519
To do it.

925
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:34.480
Yeah. I tell people all the time I wish I

926
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.480
get call them myself just to get more done. Yeah,

927
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.440
so I totally understand that. Well, Chris, it's been the

928
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:45.199
hell of the time. I've enjoyed talking with all this stuff.

929
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:50.239
And well, definitely keep in touch because I've definitely be

930
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.960
looking at some of my advice over there time period

931
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.280
coming up here, trying to get into some of that myself,

932
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:57.679
I think.

933
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.679
But you know how I can help right on.

934
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.360
I appreciate that for sure. Well, like you said, check

935
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.159
them out online, Facebook, all kinds of stuff you can

936
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:11.800
find Chris to Toney just about anywhere. Thanks a lot, Chris,

937
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:16.119
We'll see you soon, rock On. That was