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Season 2 Episode 15: Paige Collett

Season 2 Episode 15: Paige Collett
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Paige Collett is a professional wrestler known for her intensity, resilience, and fearless presence in the ring. Blending physical toughness with emotional storytelling, she has built a reputation as a competitor who brings authenticity and raw energy to every performance. Outside the ring, Paige’s journey has been defined by extraordinary perseverance. She has openly battled CRPS (Complex Regional Pain Syndrome), a chronic pain condition that can be physically and mentally devastating. Rather than allowing it to end her career or define her limits, Paige has continued fighting—both in her personal life and in professional wrestling—becoming a powerful example of determination and strength. Her story resonates far beyond wrestling, showing what it means to face adversity head-on and refuse to give up on your passion. Paige represents the modern spirit of independent wrestling: driven, authentic, and unbreakably determined. Through every challenge and comeback, Paige Collett continues to prove that real strength is built through struggle, persistence, and the refusal to quit.

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All right, what's up, guys. It's another edition of Both

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and Uncensored. We've got the Black Dahlia Page Collette here

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from the JCW. We're going to talk about life coming

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up and wrestling and see what her journey looks like

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along the way while dealing with the heavy duty medical

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condition for sure. Page, thanks for coming on. Apologize for

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your technical difficulties and whatnot.

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No, You're fun. Thank you for your patience, and I'm

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happy to be brought on. I love having an opportunity

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to share my story and then also educate people in

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my rare disease. So this is this is great. I'm

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excited to talk.

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Yeah. No, I'm glad to have you on here. It's funny.

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I got in touch with you through Curtain Call Records.

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My band was on the WrestleMania compilation CD that you

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were promoting in Vegas. Nice.

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Oh yeah yeah. Uh so, guys, besides being a professional

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wrestler one the thing, and besides being an advocate for

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my rare disease, I am also a model actor and

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that company had me advertising like different bands? Correct, what

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what what band? Or was it?

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Uh? We're called dead Man's Trigger. How many bands do

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you have just that, just that one right now? Yeah?

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What was it called again, dead Man's Trigger?

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What song did you have on the album?

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I think it was Sucubus Succubus nice?

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Yeah, I uh where I was doing a signing out

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at WrestleMania. Are you a wrestling fan or are you

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just because the.

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Music is total wrestling fan too?

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Nice? What did you think about them having a professional

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wrestler advertise your band?

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I thought it was a great thing. I mean, I'm

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promoting myself, you know, I book more regional lacts as

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opposed to national touring bands. But we're building up to that.

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Nice. So when you saw a professional wrestler, you're like, what.

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Well I was. I was impressed obviously with the photo,

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and then you know, they kind of gave me a

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little background on you, and I looked a little it

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right right.

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Yeah. It's a lot of people. I mean, no one

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anticipates to I mean, okay, it's one thing to have

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a model on the album, it's well or or whatever,

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But then for it to be a wrestler, it's like, oh,

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that's interesting. And then to see my story and hear

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about my story, it's like you it's an it's it's definitely,

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as to quote one of my doctors.

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One in a million, No, I hear that. I can

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totally relate for sure. Oh yeah, you know, it's it's

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always interesting when you're getting throwing a big curveball on

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the medical end of things.

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Right, do you do you talk to Rock Rage Radio?

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Because I know they I'm supposed to tell them to

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reach out to me again because I with my brain fog,

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with my condition, I know I have their numbers saved,

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but they I definitely will uh work with them this year.

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So maybe I'll be advertising your band again.

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That would be fantastic. I'll send you some merch. Yeah,

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very own cool. Well yeah, so you know, well before

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we got on air, we were talking about getting into wrestling,

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and you said you weren't really familiar with it growing up,

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per se, and.

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So how okay, So as a wrestling fan, you watch

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these interviews of US wrestlers, right, So there's the vast

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majority of us were fans growing up, right, and then

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there's the occasional oh I never was and I was

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brought into it and then or whatever. So I'm that

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that one small percentile because like so my caregiver, my brother, Nathaniel.

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He's my brother in wrestling because but now of course

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became my caregiver. But he has the exact opposite story

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of me. He has that cliche story of first time

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he watched it. He was in diapers, you know, so

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he was like brought up on that. And he's a

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nineties baby, so he had the attitude era and stuff.

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He is a big stone cold Mark, So him being

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one of my mentors and me being immersed around him

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as I got involved of wrestling, and then during my

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injury and during my sickness because it's the spring, will

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make nine years since my accident, So being just around

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a stone cold Mark, you know, you kind of get

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immersed into that attitude.

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Era that that that.

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Old school wrestling. But but the point is he was

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brought up on wrestling. I wasn't right, so that guys

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I have. I was one of my first memories was

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in diapers. I played baby Jesus in a play. I

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was a theater kid. I was the Okay, So the

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age to get involved with sports is normally five years old, right,

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like the four or five year mark, right right. I

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have an elder sister, so she would get involved with

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the sports me being like two years younger. At the

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age of two, I was involved with sports, so I

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was even though these teams I wasn't four or five,

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I was actually a part of the team, you know.

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So I got to be in the practices and then

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if they didn't have a girl, you know, like I

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was able to be on the team, you know. So

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I was the honorable mention at the age of two.

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Four the sports my five year old sister was in,

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which was basketball, which was t ball, softball, which then

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I think by the time she got to age of seven,

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it was volleyball. So I was always that kid that was, well,

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she's not supposed to be on the team, she's too young.

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So that was my upbringing. Was sports was theaters, so

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but a lot of my sports was dance, cheerleading, so

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so I did ballet, tap, jazz, gymnastics, like that was

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my upbringing. And I loved performing and I loved expressing

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myself on stage. And then I had the idea of

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going to the New York Film Academy and making a

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career out of this perhaps and I got accepted in

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the New York Film Academy, and I was going to

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do it, and then, and then I was conflicted because

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of my religious background, and I had other ideas of

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maybe doing missionary work and doing things like that. But

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then I got casted and offered a valet role in

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professional wrestling, and I was like, wait, parking cars.

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That's so. That's how ignorant.

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That's how ignorant I was when I was just that

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eighteen year old child when I got involved with wrestling,

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I didn't know what a valet was. So but I

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got involved with wrestling. I started as a manager before

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I became a wrestler, and I fell in love with

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it and I immersed into it and I wanted to

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be make a career out of it. And that was

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the beginning of my journey.

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Bob, that's fantastic. Now, what did you fall in love

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with about wrestling? First?

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I remember the moment I fell in love with wrestling.

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I so, Okay. It was in the Appalachian Mountains and

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it was in Kentucky and I was a manager, and

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I had no drive to to want to be a wrestler,

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even though I had the theater background, even though I

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was doing the New York Film Academy Iggy, you know,

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even though I even though I was pursuing the arts

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in other ways. I never with my athletic background you

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would think, okay, be a wrestler. No, that wasn't. The

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first job offer was as a valet, so as a manager,

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I never pondered onto becoming a wrestler. So the moment

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I fell in love with the business is the moment

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I realized I was like, oh I want to do this.

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Oh wait. It was like an aha moment, like a hello,

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like dumb, like you kind of were born, you kind

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of were like groomed from age to two since you

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were playing Baby Jesus and diapers, like since that moment,

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you were meant to be a wrestler.

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Absolutely, So it was like that.

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AHA moment, And I remember it. So I was in

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an indie show and man, the crowd was hot back then.

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Like it was like it went from the crowd was

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just the boys family and you know, their girlfriends or

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whatever or so it was just like maybe fifty people,

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but the crowd got so invested. In particular, I was

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bollying my caregiver, Nate. He was going by Nate Cross

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at the time, and he he was so over and

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so hot on the mic, like think like stone Cold

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Steve Boston think like kind of like, how who would

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be someone recent that that did that did good on

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the mic. I honestly, Nathaniel Is made that town so

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hot that by the time this performance was going on,

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it went from just whoever was hooking up with the

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boys and their family like in the crowd. So there

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was probably in that small indie show there was probably

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like two hundred people, three hundred people like papped into

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one room, like that was how hot that crowd was

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onto hating us particularly. But I was playing the heel,

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you know, so there I am in the moment, and

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I think the whole setup was like, uh, we had

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the United States title or and uh, everyone thinks it's

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on the line. So we lose and everyone thinks the

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belt is being taken, and then in the end the

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belt was not on the line. So so the crowd

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is so hot, it's like, shoot they hate us, It's

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like shoot, right, they are hot. And so then comes

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the iggy when we lose and Eupouria erupts. You Fouria

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of like a packed small shindies, you know, this little

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town in Kentucky just erupts, and I get to get

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on the mic and announce that the belt actually was

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not on the line, So so I let. It's like

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it's like an orchestra. It's like it's like I'm the

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conductor and I it's like dance, puppets dance. It's so

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beautiful as an artist that this is the reaction you

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wanted and to be able to deliver. So the crowd's hot.

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We lost the belt, we lost the match. Oh no,

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then who's this bitch getting in the ring? And it's

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like they get silent and it's like, but it wasn't

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on the line. And then the shoot eruption of the

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fans of the crowd. It's like conducting an orchestra. And

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the way that they wanted to jump the barrier and

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rip my flesh apart just to be able to to

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get that reaction was so gnarly, and bell really wasn't

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on the line, and we don't get out, you know,

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we got by so no to So the concept of

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that whole thing is when I'm experiencing the crowd eruption

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with ha ha, you lost. They're so satisfied that I lost.

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They're so thrilled. They don't care one who cares about

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the baby? Face, who gives a fuck? Whoever that is?

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You lost to be able to perform and bring that

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out of people and then goose bumps on the mic

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exactly what I needed, silence, and then to have them

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brought up again. That is the moment I was like,

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I fucking love professional wrestling. Oh my god, I love

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this sport. Oh wait, I want to do this. Oh wait,

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I can do this, Wait I can. I was kind

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of meant to do this. I was kind of brought up.

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So that was the moment and I will never forget it.

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I fell in love of professional wrestling and then down

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the rabbit hole after that.

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Yeah, that's an incredible story for sure. Yeah. I mean,

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I'm a musician by tray, so I can relate to

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getting that kind of reaction and seeing what's getting over

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with the crowd and see people get into it and

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really touch somebody emotionally in any way, whether it just

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means they're looking at having a good time. Yeah, there's

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really nothing like that.

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Right As an artist, just expressing yourself and your art,

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being able to get that reaction out of people, say

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it is really satisfying for sure.

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So eighteen, at this point, it's starting to come and

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you know, have a pretty good park with the crowd

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doing that heeled job.

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And yeah, I spent like I spent nearly four years

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on the indies, tearing down wrestling rings, learning how to

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build them and just you know, doing the whole paying

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your dues. And I when I found love of wrestling,

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I was discovered by Bobby Blaze and he became my

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first mentor, and he's like, kid, you really need to

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you can make a living out of this. You really

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need to do this. And it's like, yeah, I'm kind

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of having this moment of I really want to do this.

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So when.

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I wanted to train, I was really I didn't want

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to be that mark and tight so to speak. I

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didn't want to be that just an unprofessional person. I

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wanted to make a living out of it. So I

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went to college. I researched my schools, and I ended

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up going to Funake's and for under a year I

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was in Texas and I ended up going to Funaki's.

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And then WrestleMania ended up happening in Texas, and all

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of those kids went up, of course, to Dallas because

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we were down in San Antonio and everyone wanted on

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the different indie shows and make herself available and Rakishi

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was doing territoryly I think that's what it was called

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Territory Leagues at the time. And we were scouted to

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represent Texas, I think, And so we were brought onto

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the show and it was a show right in the

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parking lot of WrestleMania that you get out so oh dude,

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it was so cool. And then just sitting outside of

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the VI venue was Rakishi and this is my first

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time meeting him, and I'm just nobody that's you know,

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had that had that harsh carneye upbringing on the indies

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Innaffalatian Mountains to training under this legend like Funaki too.

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Now here it is WrestleMania and here's this the freaking

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legend w w Hall famer Rakishi and and he's the

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boss of this promotion that's happening. It's like, ah, you know.

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So that was my introduction to him. And I think

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the other two girls on the card was Shatzi and

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we're out. Those were the other two women on the

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card and then me and I'm just like, huh, well,

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they had great careers and I got put in a wheelchair.

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Yay, you know, do you get to start somewhere.

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So those two went on and had beautiful careers and

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but no, I I got uh let's see, uh, Yukishi

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told me that, you know, I told him who I

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was and training and how long I had been training

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under Funaki and gave me the invite to come. After

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that that weekend of shows during WrestleMania, I think they

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had like a couple of shows. Uh they uh. Rikishi

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ended up inviting me to LA to come to the school.

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And that's when I was like, okay, So I just

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packed up the suitcase I had. I was a homeless kid,

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you know, and I had been paying my dues and

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grinding for so many years at this point that this

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is what I've sacrificed and dedicated myself too. So that

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only made sense. So I had my crappy vehicle and

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I drove to LA and I sacrificed. It was just

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under a year I slept out of my vehicle in

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Los Angeles and I trained at Knox Pro and I

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did all their everything that they wandered from me and

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to become a professional wrestler.

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And I admire your commitments. You know, it takes a

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certain type of person to be able to put put

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in dues and really earn their spot, especially with there's

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so many avenues to get in wrestling now.

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But yeah, I did, I had, I had. I had nothing. No,

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I had no family, no friends, I didn't have anyone

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that supported me or believed in me. It was like,

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if you want to do this, you're you're going to

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have to do it yourself. So I got a job

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at Walmart. I the only availability was shift, so I

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worked nightshift at Walmart, and then in the daytime I

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would if I wasn't fighting La traffic, I was in

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the gym working out a Planet Fitness. And then if

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I wasn't working out or showering out a Planet Fitness,

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I was trying to sleep out of my vehicle in

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the daytime and there was no air conditioning in my

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crappy vehicles, so it was the daytime with no air

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and I got some poisoning a lot, and it was

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an interesting experience. And then got to go to school,

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you know, got to go train and do this gnarly

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becoming a professional wrestler, And if you want to be

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serious about it, it's not easy and it's really grew

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some on the body so I had the worst odds

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against me and I did it, and I and then

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to I would have loved to have spent these past

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you know, like eight years having a career. I would

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have loved to which wrestling never owes us anything, and

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and you know, as wrestlers, we get hurt. But I

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didn't just get hurt and put in a wheelchair. I

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activated a disease and that's what's imprisoned me and I

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guess it's just it's just sad because I did it

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the right way, the correct way. I did it. I

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sacrificed everything and I didn't cut any corners. I didn't

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ask for the easy way out, and I was never cognized.

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I was never handed anything. And to to not even

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have a career, it sucks. But it's not about the

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victims story. It's not about this being the end. I

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want to take this and I want to make it

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a victory story. I want to I want to give people.

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I want to give people hope and myself hope. I

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don't want to be the victim. I don't want I

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don't want my sickness to control me, and I I

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choose to bring awareness to my rear ease, and I

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choose to be an advocate for the sick, and I

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will continue this even with beyond wrestling. I'm I'm going

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to continue this story, but I don't I don't want

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it to be a negative story, you know, if that

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makes sense.

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Well, I mean, from what I've heard at this point,

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it'd be kind of hard to make it a negative story.

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You've you know, plenty to be impressed and proud of you, Bob.

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It's to that point in the story.

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I definitely have imposter syndrome, and mental health is a

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real thing, and especially dealing with the suicide disease. My

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my sickness is nicknamed the suicide disease for a reason,

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and there is a lot of pressure on me to

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bring awareness to my rare disease and be an advocate

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for my fellows or cist people, let alone the others

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that are sick with other sicknesses. You know, like being

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a voice is very important to me. Letting the healthy

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know about this and be less ignorant is very important

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to me. But then also not being put in a

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bubble and not being catagorized and discriminated against, and not

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missing out on opportunities because of the ignorance I want.

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I don't want to be labeled as the sick girl.

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I want to be beyond this as well.

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No, I can definitely relate. I mean, growing up, I

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had my fair shared difficulties and you know, finding an

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exception among people. And you know, luckily I found music

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kind of the same way that you found wrestling. It

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wasn't really you know, at the forefront of my mind

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as a kid right away. But long story short, I've

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had twenty flat of the years plus of experience now

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is a profess and while it might not translate into

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dollars as much at the moment, you know, I love

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what I do, so I can totally relate to that

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for sure. So CRPS is what it's called.

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Yeah, Complex regional pain syndrome.

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Okay, so walk me through what you got injured obviously

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to trigger your this disease.

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Yeah, yeah you can. Uh so with this neurological condition.

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Uh you activate this disease through like any kind of trauma,

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like particularly like accidents like whether it's uh, you fall

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and break your arm or something as severe as a

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herd attack like or I am in contact with someone

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that was activated through a sprained ankle. So this could

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happen to any there's no rhyme for reason, there's no

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yes or no. It literally is a rare disease. So

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mine was activated through torn ligaments. So that's what happened

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to me. I tore the ligaments in the bottom of

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both my feet and it activated CRPS. And the doctors

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did not understand why the pain did not match the injury. Yeah,

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so they didn't know how to treat me. They didn't

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know how to treat me, and I couldn't stand, I

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couldn't walk. I was collapsing and vomiting, and I was

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put in a wheelchair, and and then the pain never

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matched the injury. So so by eight months in, they're like,

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we're just gonna go in and release these muscles. Let's

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try to help the s girl. So they did the

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fasciatus release surgery, which again it wasn't just torn muscles,

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it was a So these doctors, God loved them, They

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didn't know any better, but they just butchered me and

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spread my disease. They spread my sickness and m I

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lost my faith in God when I came out of

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those surgeries. When I was Oh, it was the most

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disgusting pain you could ever imagine. And I remember I

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just remember being I knew I was gonna die in

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that wheelchair. I just had this ominous feeling, like when

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they set my my body after the first two surgeries,

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I was just like, what have you done? And it

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became a very dark time for me for sure. And

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then I just found the will to combat it and fight.

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And I was like, nah, I'm want to wrestle. I

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don't know what's going on, but I'm losing my mind

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that I'm going to wrestle. And that's when I taught

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myself how to walk again and the planet fitness and.

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Here will the power of the human spirit. People often disregard,

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but that's an incredible example of that for sure, or.

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Just stupidity and ignorance, like I don't know, like like

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it's a little bit of everything I think, but the

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light went out. Oh well it's broke. So it's more

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so like yes, my will to live.

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Yes.

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And also I believe God had a hand in it,

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and I there's a lot of yes as to that.

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But also I didn't know any better. I didn't know

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what I was combating. I knew this was the most

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painful pain I've ever felt, but I was ignorant to

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know that this was the most painful pain known to

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man kind, Like I could never imagine, but I knew

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what I felt, and I was gasolt by the medical community.

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They didn't believe what I was saying. They didn't understand,

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and they tried. And also by the time I taught

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myself how to walk again and started cutting the weight

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I put on in that wheelchair, they decided to go

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back in and cut me open and tried to do

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more surgeries like I think, like the carpal tunnel surgery,

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but like a mirth walk surgery, but in the legs,

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so like in the ankles, and that spread my disease,

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and they it wasn't just the same doctors. It was

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fifteen different doctors in the expansion of seven years. It

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wasn't like I just sat on my butt or just

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dealt with the same two doctors. I literally went to

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fifteen different doctors and I just got butchered and gas

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lit and they didn't believe my pain or they just

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were like, Okay, let's cut you open and try this,

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and it just spread my disease, and my disease ended

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up spreading throughout my body. And then I finally got

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diagnosed and discovered by like the fifteenth freaking doctor, and

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they quite literally said I was lucky to be alive.

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Yeah, especially if there's so many exploratory surgeries and all.

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It's not fair to be the medical guinea pig. It's

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not fair to be butchered by these people that are

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supposed to be saving.

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You right now. Unfortunately, I know all too well the well.

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I can't say all bad, but I was very lucky

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growing up to have a good orthopedic team and a

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good surgical team. They became close family. But the bureaucracy

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behind all of it definitely got taxing after a while,

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and you wonder are they really trying to do good

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or are some of these doctors just there to make

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a paycheck. And you know, he's so well being be damned,

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you know.

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Yeah, for sure, I feel that. I feel that to

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the court, and it's sad and it's disgusting. It's like

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they want to keep us sick and they want to

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make money off us as we die.

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Yeah, I mean I one of those things that I

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can relate to was myself getting off of U narcotics

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for pain.

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Which a lot of my cr To be clear for everyone,

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uh watching, there's no shame in taking medicine. You're valid,

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and how you handle your sickness, you're valid how you

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handle your pain. But the thing is, like, again, if

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I had been diagnosed with my sickness in the beginning

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and offered medicine, I probably would have. Who's to say

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I wouldn't have taken it just because I was diagnosed

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seven years in the game and never offered a single medicine.

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They're like, do you want medicine? It's like, why not?

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So so I so my CRPS, brothers and sisters, let

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alone other people I'd never judged for taking medicine.

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Yeah, no, definitely. So I've since been able to switch

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to edible cannabis. Yeah, I went through like a year

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and a half of flighting with doctors to you know,

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maintain a simple legating prescription.

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You know, it's sad that we have to fight for

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and it's not even a pain free life. It's a

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bless in the base.

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It's just to give a baseline.

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It's literally to try to make living tolerable. So I

470
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.759
get it, even though I never I never was offered anything,

471
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:03.039
so I just raw dog this this whole time. So

472
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:05.599
when I was offered this stuff, it's like, no, I

473
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:07.559
don't want to go down that rabbit hole because what

474
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.519
about addiction? What about all these other things, the other

475
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.240
health issues that could be developed, Like I got a

476
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:15.480
lot of issues as it is. But I did accept

477
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:16.720
a medical marijuana card.

478
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.720
Nice. Yeah, it's been in a lifesaver.

479
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.839
It's the medicine. It helps and saves lives for.

480
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:28.519
Sure, Yeah, no doubt. But yeah, we can talk about

481
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:35.720
what we did another day Jesus. But yeah, I am.

482
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:41.680
It's nice to meet somebody randomly like yourself that I

483
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:47.400
can relate to on that level, because yeah, it's it's

484
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:52.799
tricky when you're surrounded by quote unquote able bloody people

485
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.440
most of the time. Yeah, I don't know what it

486
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.359
is that you really deal with. You know, we fit

487
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.559
out and try to act like it's not taxing on us,

488
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:07.440
but it's hard sometimes. Yeah, sure, you know.

489
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:14.920
Will understand the health understand they what is it? What

490
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.160
is the saying the healthy wears an invisible crown that

491
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:19.559
only the sick can see?

492
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:25.799
Yeah, basically, Yeah, but I mean drops to you for

493
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.160
being a bad bitch and just fucking pushing it.

494
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:33.720
Thanks babe. Yeah, I honestly I was didn't know any better.

495
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:36.039
So it's not like I'm not brave, but now that

496
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.839
I do know better, like why quit now? Like let's

497
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.119
see how like this would be such a boring ending

498
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:46.160
to this epic story, you know, like I why stop now?

499
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:46.519
Why not?

500
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:48.880
Like, let's push it to the end, even if I

501
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:52.240
die in the wrestling ring. Let's freaking go right.

502
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:56.720
And it's it's hard nowadays to find somebody who has

503
00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.799
that much passion who they are as a person.

504
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.440
I have the love, I have the passion, and I

505
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:07.160
will always be I will always go back to that

506
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.559
girl that fell in love with wrestling. And then it

507
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:15.960
also that girl that fell in love with wrestling when

508
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.559
I had that reaction from the crowd in the Appalachian Mountains.

509
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.240
But then there's that girl that was in the wheelchair

510
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.519
that wrestling killed and hurt and abandoned, and I felt

511
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:34.079
the raw pain and that girl. So it's always there's

512
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.240
a purpose to not give up now and be a

513
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:41.920
shame for those two innocent versions of me to not

514
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.119
get a taste and experience the victory of conquering the

515
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:53.960
sickness and getting to experience everything that they deserved. A yeah,

516
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:56.839
because I've been so deprived. I didn't get to I

517
00:33:56.839 --> 00:34:00.359
told everyone it was more than a wrestling matches and career.

518
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.160
It was more than a wrestling career that was taken

519
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.599
from me. I didn't get to I didn't get to

520
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.960
be a girl. I didn't get to live. And now

521
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:10.760
I'm going to live right.

522
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:21.199
Well, amen, Sweeter, that's great, Yay, good stuff. No, And

523
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.920
to see what you've done in a short amount of

524
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:28.760
time post recovery or at least you know, getting yourself

525
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.840
back on your feet and getting back into the ring.

526
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:34.119
What amount of time it's been this April will make

527
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.760
nine years, nine years of my life.

528
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.960
Well, I mean that's that's it's a good, good long

529
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:44.239
time for that. But I'm just saying a grand scheme.

530
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:49.599
Grand scheme of things. Yeah, it's go time kids like yeah.

531
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:51.880
I I mean, you got to think I was a

532
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:56.400
valet for so many years in the Indies, just digging

533
00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:00.280
around and then going through the trials and tribulations of

534
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.519
the Carnies, and then and then to dedicate and sacrifice

535
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.800
nearly two years of my life to school, if you

536
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.039
think about it, with Funaki, with Rakishi I sacrificed so

537
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:17.119
much to do those student uh, to be under these legends,

538
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.159
and then to learn the right way, and then nine

539
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:25.400
years being like the spring, no career. So but to

540
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:29.000
be fair, yes, what I've been building the past two years. Uh,

541
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:30.920
so that's what you're referring.

542
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.920
To, is the past where you were at?

543
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.000
Yeah, Well, ever since I got back invold with wrestling,

544
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.320
for the past two years, I started making appearances. I started, uh,

545
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:48.239
I started doing podcasts, and so the signings, then the

546
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:52.639
podcast and then the becoming vallet again, and then valleting

547
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.599
wasn't enough. I am a wrestler, so let's add taking

548
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.599
a move or giving a move. So I started taking

549
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.719
bumps and and so the past two years of a build,

550
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.480
then getting signed to j c W and getting h

551
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.840
to work TV with them, so like these different opportunities. Yeah,

552
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.639
the past two years has been pretty magical and I

553
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.119
can't I can't wait to see what these next two

554
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.480
years bring. It's gonna be insane. I think. I think

555
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.800
this is the ending we need to my to my book,

556
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.719
to the doc series, to the well from from the

557
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:30.480
moment I was homeless and scared and alone to to

558
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:35.719
going through all this crazy story to to to Now,

559
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.880
I think these next two years is going to be

560
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.079
the cool ending definitely.

561
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:45.440
No, I mean you've you've proven all any nasators wrong

562
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.559
so far, that's for sure. I admire your decmination.

563
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.039
I mean, I like proving doctors wrong, and then I

564
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.719
also I get it it's like challenge accepted. I like

565
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.719
to prove doctors wrong, and then I like to prove

566
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:08.360
that all the naysayers for sure, like people that would

567
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.400
look down on a sick person for still being involved

568
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:18.800
or uh not take the sickness seriously and being like,

569
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.840
oh it's not that bad, or something like like both

570
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:26.719
sides of the coin, or just sheer jealousy. And we're

571
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:31.199
in a competitive community and in a competitive world, so

572
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:36.400
this is showbiz. So if you how dare you outshine

573
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.800
someone else or something so like, there's always there's always

574
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.840
going to be that. And with my trials and tribulations

575
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.159
through life and experiencing the different tastes of death that

576
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.440
I have experienced, there's no room for any of that

577
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.639
in my life. And I just I do believe in

578
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.840
projecting happiness and kindness and and just being blessed to be.

579
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.760
You're being blessed to be able to to work because

580
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:06.039
I'm going to be in pain regardless like whether I'm

581
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.280
in a wheelchair or whether I'm in that ring, I'm

582
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.519
going to be in pain. So I just it means

583
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.360
a lot for these opportunities. So I'm not gonna let

584
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.960
any nasayers pooping my cheerios.

585
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:25.400
Indeed, keep I'll remember that one for sure.

586
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.920
Because they're poopoo heads.

587
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.000
But yeah, no, I can totally relate. I mean, doctors

588
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.920
didn't think I was gonna see my teenage years, and

589
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:37.199
I'm almost pooring now.

590
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:39.360
So population's good for you.

591
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:45.239
Yeah. Again, it was very much a similar you know,

592
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.239
I was brought up to not let it stopped me.

593
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.880
And again, if I don't, you know, like I just

594
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:59.079
keep pushing and I'm doing things that most people wouldn't

595
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:06.920
even dream of do. I still broke, But you know it's, uh,

596
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.320
I just for the same reasons that you do. It is,

597
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:15.960
you know, giving that positivity back in such a dark

598
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:20.480
world that we lived in. Yeah, it's like motivating people

599
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.159
like that's what makes me happy.

600
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:30.360
Yeah, there's no other way to be. This is bye,

601
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.480
this is what it is. This is our reality, and

602
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.320
why not like, oh, I think my phone's about to

603
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:47.559
die despite Okay, sorry did you have more questions? Sorry?

604
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:54.800
Sorry a little bit. So we you know, we're talking

605
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.599
where you're at now versus where you started, uh, after

606
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:06.199
you're in jury initially. So what was that first bump

607
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:13.800
like post up, Like, was it a situation where you

608
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.639
felt incredibly your eversent and then you felt relieved once

609
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:23.159
it was older, or was it like, oh fuck, this sucks. Yeah,

610
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:25.159
it was.

611
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.519
Okay, So I have PTSD and I've gotten so much

612
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.440
better in the past couple of years, but it was

613
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.599
I was doing with a lot of ptsden and people

614
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.960
with the sickness can collaborate or whatever that the word

615
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:50.559
is for that they like it wasn't just wrestling activated

616
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:57.760
this sickness, and it like I couldn't even listen to

617
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:03.280
a wrestling podcast alone watch wrestling. That's how bad my

618
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:06.880
mental health was after getting out of that wheelchair. So

619
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:11.559
because I spent years in the wheelchair, two it took

620
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:13.559
over a year to learn how to walk again, and

621
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.280
then when I had the by the fourth surgery, I

622
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:19.079
had to learn how to walk again again. Like it

623
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.519
was multiple times. It was disgusting how I was treated.

624
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.480
But by the time we got to the point of

625
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:35.440
the first ball during training. I we at this point,

626
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.519
we know I'm sick. At this point, we know what

627
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:47.480
it is. So with my sickness, people get afraid of tattoos.

628
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:54.440
Let alone as a woman, it's frisky. It's suggested not

629
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:59.719
to be pregnant, of course, so like just having human

630
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.320
things taken away from me, like a tattoo or being

631
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.880
a mommy. How dare how dare I be in a

632
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:10.079
world like this? But there's others that are like, you know,

633
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.079
f that I'm gonna go get a tattoo or you know,

634
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.239
I want to Like I there's one woman in my

635
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.079
DMS that's like she would she doesn't care about spread,

636
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.840
she doesn't care if it takes her life. Like she

637
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.400
she wanted to be a mommy, so she did get

638
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.599
pregnant and and like like this is very real stuff.

639
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.039
So it's like, Okay, I'm gonna be a wrestler, and

640
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.480
that's the one power I can take back. So when

641
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:42.599
I entered the ropes, I had to That was one

642
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.639
of the last things I did, not as in now,

643
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.599
but that was one of the last steps to the

644
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:52.760
beginning of what I what I'm doing now because because

645
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.519
at the beginning, when I learned how to walk again,

646
00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:58.880
it was only like for fifteen minutes, and I was

647
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.679
vomiting and screaming, crying, and then by the end of

648
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.920
the year, it was for ten hours. So when I

649
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.599
approached that first bump what I'm about to tell you about,

650
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.159
I'm beyond that now. But my PTSD, I couldn't even

651
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:17.159
be in a locker room. So then we had to

652
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:23.760
learn how to do that. Then I had to endure, okay,

653
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.199
going to signings. So then I started doing the signings,

654
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.519
and then I started valaying. So I did my baby steps,

655
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.639
and it took these past couple of years. So then

656
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:39.719
it became okay, balleting's not enough. Let's let's take a

657
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:42.039
move or give a move. Because you are a wrestler,

658
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:48.639
you had to prove yourself. So I knew approaching that

659
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:51.199
that I am sick and this is gonna taste and

660
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:55.719
feel different than a normal human beed. So I knew

661
00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:59.639
what a bump felt like, and I knew it was

662
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:04.159
about to taste and feel different, And I was right,

663
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.519
that was gnarally. But call it my ego, call it

664
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:14.639
my pride, call it Okay, this sucks, but let's do

665
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:19.800
it again. It was something that I had to build it.

666
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:21.880
And this is poorly put, but a callous. I had

667
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:27.079
to build the GA because my disease has no rhyme

668
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:34.719
to reason, and uh uh. When I taught myself how

669
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.199
to stand and walk again for long periods of time,

670
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.800
it was like building a callous in a sense. And

671
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:43.960
I have good days bad days that I could do

672
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.480
some more or less, that's true, but I was building

673
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:50.079
a callous. I was relearning. So that's what I'm doing

674
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.000
with wrestling with these bumps, and now I'm so beyond

675
00:44:53.119 --> 00:45:00.760
that first bump. But now my body can and do more,

676
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.480
and we're trying to get it to be able to

677
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:06.840
do a full match, and I think I can do that.

678
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:07.559
That's awesome.

679
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:15.280
Yeah, that's the goal this year. But I realistically, though,

680
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:21.519
for the sick better watching, I do understand that I'll

681
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:26.679
probably only have one match. I probably won't have be

682
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:31.360
healthy enough for like a main roster, full time wrestling career.

683
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:35.320
But then again, I didn't know if I could stand

684
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:41.199
for ten hours, so who knows how the next year

685
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:46.199
to two years will be. But I realistically, right now

686
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.639
accept the idea of one match and then just a

687
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:51.480
manager role.

688
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:56.719
Beyond this, I mean, it's certainly not bad. You've got

689
00:45:56.719 --> 00:46:00.360
the charisma and look to take you beyond just the

690
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:04.280
physical aspect of being involved in wrestlings.

691
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.880
I feel like, if if there's no shame in being

692
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.519
a manager, like I said it, I'll be the female

693
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.079
Paul Hayman or whatever, Like, I can really make a

694
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.360
career like that. But I am a professional wrestler, so

695
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:24.800
that one match does mean something to me. Always prove

696
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.559
that I am a wrestler. But then make a job

697
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:28.480
as a manager.

698
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.920
There's no shame as long as you're still being a

699
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:33.320
part of what you love so much.

700
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.440
For sure, make a make a living, make be able

701
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:41.079
to buy a house, cover my medical bills, and then

702
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:45.159
open a facility, like be able to fund a research

703
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.960
facility myself, like start start a business. The my wildest

704
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:55.559
dreams is to be able to help other people that

705
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:00.320
don't have hope. You know that's something I really want.

706
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:07.360
Well, that's that's incredible. So you've busted your ass on

707
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:11.679
the indies, You've gone through all this stuff and getting

708
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:15.239
back on your feet, and now you wind up with

709
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.440
a JCW contract. For those that don't know, this is

710
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:23.239
Juggalo Championship Wrestling. It's a little bit different than what

711
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.679
you see on most wrestling programs, but I like anything

712
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.719
that's a little bit edgier and a little bit more

713
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:37.079
off the wall. So yeah, tell me how that started, right.

714
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.079
It is a blessing, especially now that you guys know

715
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:42.960
my backstory and all that I had to do to

716
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:49.599
get to this point. But I, uh, I tell my

717
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:54.320
bosses that this is my w W Wait, this is

718
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.559
so cool to be here, and I mean that, and

719
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:06.559
I the way I got involved was of course violent

720
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:13.559
Jay he uh he discovered me, and uh, I am

721
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:17.119
too sick to wrestle, so I'm brought on as a

722
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:23.039
manager and he offered me this role, and uh some

723
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:28.280
people wouldn't have taken it, and I jumped at the opportunity.

724
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:32.559
And I genuinely mean it when I say that I'm

725
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.800
blessed to be here and this is so fun and exciting.

726
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:37.679
It's like I can in a candy store. It's like,

727
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.400
oh me, I get to be here. Freak. Yeah, Like

728
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.800
let's go and it's guys, yeah, you guys. And I

729
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.800
don't need to throw my sickness in anyone's face. I

730
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:47.840
don't need to be pitied. But you guys don't know

731
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.000
how hard I worked for this moment. And I'm gonna

732
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.280
I don't care if I have one line in the play.

733
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:01.079
I don't care if I'm the kid sitting the bleachers

734
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.000
as the basketball game is going on. You know what

735
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.800
I'm saying. I am participating in what I love and

736
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.199
what I was made for, what I wanted. I am

737
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:13.079
a part of it. And and ah so cool, like

738
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.800
I army crawled to get here, quite literally, and yeah,

739
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.559
I defied the odds to be here. And I feel

740
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.800
not only so blessed to be here, but thrilled at

741
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.119
the different opportunities that are thrown at me. But I'm

742
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.880
just excited to see what's next. You know, what is

743
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.159
j CW going to become? Because there's such a momentum

744
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:38.400
with the company and and what we're doing with the

745
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:42.199
different product and and I'm thrilled to see what happens

746
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:42.639
this year.

747
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:45.920
No, I can't wait to see where things go for you.

748
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:50.239
For sure, I think it's nothing but all kinds of

749
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:56.239
crazy possibilities. And I know you're gonna kick their ass anyway,

750
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:03.519
thank you. Yeah, so being on the indies in comparison

751
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:06.840
to being in a little bit, shall we say, a

752
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:12.880
higher end production in j c W. What was that like,

753
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:17.880
as you know, you've been part of this for a

754
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.960
long time, but was there any step up did you

755
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:24.719
feel at all or for sure?

756
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.239
For sure? This is, like I said, this is like

757
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:32.519
my WWE, this is this is the silling for Like,

758
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.920
this is really cool to be a part of. Like

759
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:41.599
I if people don't understand how important JCW is, they're

760
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:44.440
about to with this year, with what we're about to do,

761
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:49.599
Like this is a good batch of people too, thankfully,

762
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.719
Like you know, in the entertainment world, there's a lot

763
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:56.280
of sharks, So thankfully we have a good batch of people.

764
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:58.880
And this is like a family and a camaradity. But

765
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:07.039
we are in motion and it's uh, from my humble

766
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:11.360
beginnings to this moment, it's it's pretty cool. I'm blessed.

767
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.840
It's it's it's wow, Like I I get a, I

768
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:19.159
get a. My boss's Violet Jay and Vince Russo pinched me.

769
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.679
I'm dreaming like.

770
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:25.199
Ye, it's wild. Yeah, I it's a it's definitely a

771
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:25.760
step up.

772
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:30.519
Well, I've had the pleasure of meeting Vince Russo, but

773
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.079
I've always shall we say, been interested in the things

774
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.360
he's done over the years. Uh, what was that first

775
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:47.239
meeting like for you with him?

776
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:50.960
I'm not gonna say that. Oh i'mn't caring for how

777
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:56.039
because I have I ever got. I was on location,

778
00:51:56.840 --> 00:52:00.280
so I was. It was odd because like I had

779
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:03.519
just been brought in on tour and he had just

780
00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:05.559
been brought in. So we came in at the same time,

781
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:11.519
and people were whispering about him being brought in, and

782
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.159
we were given the iggy that yes, this is legit happening.

783
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:19.519
So as we're being told this, I'm being brought in

784
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.239
and I guess no one knew I was showing up,

785
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:26.199
and it's like, Hi, surprise. So I show up one set.

786
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:28.960
But the funniest thing is I was flown out for

787
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:37.000
California and the tour was driving somewhere and so I

788
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:40.800
had a day fourteenth for It wasn't even a day.

789
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.360
It was a fourteen hour gap before I had to

790
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:47.960
be on location for the next shooting. So naturally I

791
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:53.400
left the show in LA and I left Lax and

792
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:58.159
I ended up buying to the ECW Arena to meet

793
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:04.159
my girlfriend Broadwin the she's the Dynamite Kid's daughter, and

794
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.559
we went and performed at the CW Arena for like,

795
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:09.440
we did a signing like a meet and greet, and

796
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:11.960
then we ended up performing for Battleground. I think it

797
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.880
was called and and So after doing that bit, I

798
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:21.880
had to immediately get on a plane and not get

799
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.800
in trouble, not get in trouble, and and and and

800
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.440
then and be there for the next shooting a k a.

801
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.559
The day Vince Russo is showing up.

802
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:38.079
So I was like, yeah, that's a lot to take in.

803
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.519
So that was like my first experience like coming in hot.

804
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:48.320
And then when I met him, it was funny because

805
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:53.920
I was I will go I won't talk publicly about it,

806
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:56.920
but I was on location and a lot of he's

807
00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:58.679
such a cool guy, he's such a dad, he's such

808
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.239
a good guy. But there there was a moment that

809
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:05.039
I had and it was funny because I'll go into

810
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.920
detail my later. I think I mentioned it on his

811
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.239
podcast though, so it's not like I'm being secretive. I

812
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.199
mentioned it on his podcast. But but we ended up.

813
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.000
But the good thing that I will talk about as

814
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:25.679
like like he uh, I was talking psychology, Well, okay,

815
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:27.679
you know what, Shoot, I'll just say it but no,

816
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:31.519
I can't say I was okay. So I was in

817
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:35.000
a lot of pain and my vision was blurry, and

818
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.360
someone started talking to me and I didn't know who

819
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.840
it was, and it was him, so I didn't know

820
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:45.239
I was talking to him at first, So so that

821
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.000
was it. I didn't want to come off as rude

822
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:49.079
and publicly say that, but I'm pretty sure I already

823
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.760
said that on his podcast to his face. But but

824
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.760
my vision's blurry. I'm hot, I just got off the plane.

825
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:57.760
My heart's pounding, thinking I'm gonna get in trouble if

826
00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:59.320
I'm late. But I was actually the first to arrive

827
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:03.000
to the venue, thank you very much. So everything was fine.

828
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:06.960
But then I'm talking to someone over here and I

829
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:08.320
don't know who the heck it is, you know what,

830
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:11.320
I'm just talking. And then I started talking to psychology

831
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.079
about my character and and I was like, wow, that

832
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.000
was a really good conversation. And it turned out to

833
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.280
be Vince Ferson, and I was like, Oh, that's the

834
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:21.840
new boss guy. That's great.

835
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:23.000
I love that.

836
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:28.480
I was just organically stupid, no filter, talking about the

837
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:33.280
ring rat and talking about what I wanted. No filter

838
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:36.239
me is not first oppression.

839
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.199
You're like, oh shit, that was gay.

840
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:43.039
I was like, well, freg.

841
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.480
Yeah, it was to have an introduction for somebody like that. Absolutely, Yeah,

842
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:58.039
so ICP in general where you were fan, because I

843
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.480
don't follow them very much, but I do know handful

844
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:02.280
of du Yeah.

845
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:07.039
Yeah, so I've slowly h been listening to their music,

846
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:13.079
and like, I just it's odd because being around violent Jay,

847
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:17.239
being around him, like he's just so human, if that

848
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:20.360
makes sense, Like, you know, like these are like Vince's

849
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.840
so violent Jay. These are the true celebrities. These are

850
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:30.719
the the the famous people, and and to be behind

851
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:34.039
the scenes and just oh they're human, you know, And

852
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:37.920
it's just but this, it's it just sounds so unauthentic.

853
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:42.079
But I will always reiterate the truth. And the truth

854
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.000
is this, these guys are so freaking nice and not

855
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:49.800
weird at all. They're genuinely human and kind. And Jay

856
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.639
has the biggest heart in the world. And and then

857
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:56.800
and then Vince is such a dad and and he

858
00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:00.559
asks about my sickness and is always concerned. And I

859
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.360
look like the crazy person with a smile on my

860
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.400
face going, we're alive, person running in the back going.

861
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:13.960
But no, like Vince is like are you okay? So, like,

862
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.760
these people are genuinely kind people and I'm blessed to

863
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:23.360
know them and They're be getting to be having them

864
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.039
included in my life and that's cool.

865
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.079
Well, I can't wait to see where the rest of

866
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:31.920
this journey takes you. I definitely intend to keep in

867
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:36.159
touch and i'd love to do a follow up maybe

868
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:37.559
six months something like that.

869
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:38.559
That was good.

870
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:42.599
Yeah, you know, to see where you're at. But go

871
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:46.800
get him, girl, That's all I can say. Okay, thanks

872
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:47.880
for coming on the show.

873
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.320
I appreciate you. Thanks for bringing me.

874
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:55.480
On absolutely well. Is that? Keep it touch Philips. Don't

875
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.519
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876
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:02.239
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877
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878
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:09.920
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879
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880
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