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Season 2 Episode 4 C ERNST HARTH

Season 2 Episode 4 C ERNST HARTH

C. Ernst Harth was born in Galt, Ontario, Canada in 1970. His involvement in community theatre and improv during high school led him to pursue acting as a full-time career having become a busy character actor known for dozens of film roles, such as...

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C. Ernst Harth was born in Galt, Ontario, Canada in 1970. His involvement in community theatre and improv during high school led him to pursue acting as a full-time career having become a busy character actor known for dozens of film roles, such as The Great Child in Thir13en Ghosts (2001), Miner 49er in Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed (2004), Lowell Lee Andrews in Capote (2005) and Baby Boy Tremor in Smokin' Aces 2: Assassins' Ball (2010). He is also the English-voice of Obelix in Asterix: The Secret of the Magic Potion (2018) and Asterix and Obelix: Mansion of the Gods (2014). Most recently, Ernst co-starred with Henry Thomas in Crawlspace (2022).
I sit down with Ernst and discuss his humble beginnings, to current projects he's working on now!

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Hmm, what's up everybody. Here's another edition of Bulldog Uncensored,

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episode three of season two. Uh to a special one,

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A little bit of a Halloween glide for you today.

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I have with me see Ernst Hearth of the King Ghosts.

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How you're doing, brother, I'm doing good.

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Thanks for having me.

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Josh, absolutely well.

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I'm glad that we've been able to get everything squared

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away this time around. We'd started last week and had

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some technical difficulties, but we're back in action and uh

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to talk about ears acting career, So we'll start up

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with their King Ghosts.

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I'm not about for you. Well, like every other audition,

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I get a call telling me that they want to

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see me for something. And also, like most auditions, they

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usually don't give you any information beyond the bare minimum.

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So I went into audition and apparently they wanted uh,

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big scary guys, that's all. So I went in and

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the first audition was basically they wanted you to stand

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there and look scary. UH, give scary eyes, give scary moaning.

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Uh do that, and then walk to this point and go,

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you know, all the silliness. I think they basically wanted

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to get a feel for the different people that were

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out there, and because I don't think they didn't really

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have a concept of the ghosts yet. Then I got

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hired and I was told that I would be playing

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a character named couch Potato. Because this film went through

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so many versions, I must have I don't know ten

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eleven scripts of different writers, different versions. One of them

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was written by James Gunn Because a lot of these scripts,

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they have all these hired guns who they bring in

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to you know, pop it up, to add some action here,

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to liven it up, and everybody has their own skill set,

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so they have all these ghostwriters what have you. But

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so originally it was couch Potato and my character basically

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was died sitting on a couch and he had he

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was rotting away under his clothes and you'd see the

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shirt rising and lowering because rats were coming in and

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out of holes on his body and eye, you know,

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rats coming out of his eye sockets and stuff. And

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so that was the first concept. Then I went back

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for another makeup test, and this time they had changed

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the character to a guy who was into BDSM, who

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was in the bondage, and he had a little woman

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who apparently was his Dominatrix who was hanging on off

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the side of him on like a leather contraption of sorts.

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And basically the story went that he passed out in

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the you know, orgasmically passed out and basically fell on

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her and smothered her, and that's how she.

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Died, sleeping pill right exactly.

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And then it eventually it became I don't know if

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it was because they like the way I loved or

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it reminded them of something, but it went from being

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that character to being a big baby and instead of

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being a Dominatrix, she was now my little mother. And

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I don't know, somebody must have smoked something good over

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the weekend to go from bondage and Dominatrix to mother

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and son.

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Yeah, that's a hell of bats motel switch today.

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Yeah. And like I had mentioned to you when we

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were talking previously, so much stuff in film is done

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in pre production and they have to have such an

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early start on things. And for example, in the movie,

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they have the Black Zodiac and they have the big

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book with all the different backstories of all the different monsters,

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and it has all the old fashioned drawings and what

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have you. And I have a card here, which is

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a postcard at the studio gave me to use for promotion,

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And this is a copy of the Black Zodiac for

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my character. And as you can see from this photo,

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this looks way more like the description of the BDSM

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character and the mother. So when I see this, because

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when you see some of the different characters in the

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Black Zodiac, they don't really look like the final the

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final ghosts that are in the house. Yeah, yeah, And

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I think it's because things like that, like the ghost book,

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which was a prop in the movie, had to be

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designed as early as possible because they had to have

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that on set. So I think, and I don't have

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this confirmed, but by looking at that photo, it sounds

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to me like it was based on the script of

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the BDSM version, because that doesn't look like a mother

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and child. That looks more like some sort of sex

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thing happening with all the leather straps and what have you.

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Yeah, that's the funny thing about continuity when it comes

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to films like that. It's like everyone install, I just

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see things that you can kind of go, I don't

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quite add up what's up with that?

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Yeah, Well, to take us a small dito here for

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a second, it reminds me of I did a movie

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in nineteen ninety nine called Dudley Do Right with Brendan

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Fraser and Just Jessica Sarah, Jessica Parker and Alfred Molina.

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And once again, like with this, they had the film

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was very adult oriented. It wasn't made for kids. It

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was made almost like a nostalgic piece for the adults

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who remember Dudley Do Right from the sixties. So the

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script was very adult oriented. It had a lot of

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gay jokes, it had stuff about the New York time.

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It was like, it was all stuff that kids wouldn't get.

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Right.

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Then the studio saw the film and they're like, oh,

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what is this. Nobody's gonna see this. Kids aren't gonna

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get this. So they reshot about forty percent of the

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film to make it dumb it down and to make

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it stupider for kids. You know, they have the horse

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far and sticking out his tongue, and flour boards are

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hitting Dudley do Right in the face and what have you. Yeah,

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But just like with Thirteen Ghosts, where they had to

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they had to go into production on The Black Zodiac

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before the final script was done. Same with Dudley Do Right.

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You know how they have like novelizations of films, and

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so they created like a children's novelization of Dudley Do

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Right that you can go to the bookstore, you can

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go to the kids section and you can buy the

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children's novelization of Dudley Do Right. The problem is because

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it was done so early in production. It's based on

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the adult script. So kids must have been confused because

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if they went and saw the film in the theater

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and they liked it right now, So then they go

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to the bookstore and they get the book which has

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the Dudley Do Right, it says based on the script,

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and you start reading it and there's all these gay jokes,

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and there's a gay bar in minami, and they're they're

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packing them up in a box and they're shipping Dudley

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Do You Write to Cuba? And there's like all this stuff.

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So that's what reminds me of just like with Thirteen Ghosts,

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when you do stuff early, and they did the same

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thing with Scooby Doo Two Monsters Unleash. There's a game

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that you can buy, a board game, and my character's

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photo in the game is based on a makeup test,

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not from the It's like they took pictures early on

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in production and they just use what they had laying

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around at that point. And then you could get toys

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at Burger King during Scooby Doo two and when you

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go on and we would go on to the Burger

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King website, the picture they had on there was from

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another makeup test and I didn't look like any of

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these makeup tests in the final films. So it's hilarious.

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But going back to Thirteen Ghosts, so eventually they decided

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to go with a big baby and a mother. So

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I'm after our second makeup test. I'm standing outside the

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trailers with Steve Beck, the director, and he's trying to

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decide what kind of look. And I had basically this

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hair at the time. It was a little bushier, more

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of an afro than and he says, what kind of

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hair do you think the Great Child should have? And

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just then Shannon Elizabeth on her way to the makeup trailer,

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she stops by and he says, Shannon, I got a

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question for you the Great child. What kind of hair

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do you think he should have? He's a big baby,

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what kind of hair? And she's thinking and she all

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of a sudden, you see her eyes open up. She goes,

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remember that cartoon in the sixties. He was like a

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big duck and he was in a big diaper, and

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he had a bonnet and he had like a blonde curl.

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And Steve goes, baby Hueie, and she yes, baby Huie,

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I think he should look exactly like that. So off

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I go to the makeup trailer. They shave off all

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my hair except the black tuft in the front, and

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then I had to go get my hair dyed. So

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every three days I'd have to go back in and

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get my die blonde, and then I'd had to get

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my roots touched up because my roots started showing. So

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basically for three months, I basically walked around looking like

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a poodle's ass. And of course, at the beginning of production,

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you know, you're a little embarrassed, and so you're wearing

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all your baseball caps and you're to high. By the

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end of the three months shoot, I was walking around

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in public with little Baretts on my hair because he didn't.

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Know.

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At that point, I just wanted to be done with

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but I was also so used to being that character

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by that point, I mean, there were nights where I'd

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go home still in partially in the great child makeup,

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because at that point I was about two pounds shy

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of six hundred pounds and uh six foot six, six

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hundred pounds. That's a pretty big baby, right, Yeah. And

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so they said, don't worry, the production is going to

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provide you with shower. So we're gonna get showers on

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out by the trailer so you can take a full

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shower again. Because I had body makeup on every inch

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of my body.

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Oh yeah, you didn't even look the same at all.

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No. And the thing was, you know, everyone else has

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all these big prosthetic makeup jobs and these big long

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makeup applications, and me it was just body makeup. But

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I had like three layers because they had to basically,

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they had to wipe me down first, so they had

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these big horse hair brushes and they basically just spackled

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me down in this white, pasty looking stuff. Then they

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had to take an airbrush and put in all the

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veins and all the open sores and stuff all over

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my body, and then they had to bring in the detail.

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So it was a long It was one of the

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longer makeup jobs only because you know, I have a

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lot of square footage, you know, and so there was

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a it was a long time. So then with all

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of with all of that, all of that makeup done,

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and it was funny because even once again it's funny

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they took pictures of me. We weren't Uh. I had

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gotten my hair cut, shaved my head, I had the block,

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the tough hair, and then they tell me, uh, they're

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doing some doing some photos in the studio, so they

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rushed me to the studio. They didn't have the bib

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yet because they were still designing the look, so that

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someone took a piece of cloth and just tied it

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around my neck to create like the look of a bib,

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and I've got the black tough to hair, and they

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took pictures. Somehow those pictures ended up going to Fangoria

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because once again, yeah, there I am. I open up

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Fangoria and there's a full page picture of me with

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this piece of cloth tied around my neck and the

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dark hair on top. And it just always kills me.

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It's like, you know, they just send out whatever they

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got whenever they someone requests something. So it was a

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it was a long three months of sitting around. There

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were days where we know there's twelve ghosts, so that's

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twelve makeup jobs. So there's a days where each of

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us had two or three makeup people, so you're looking at,

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I don't know, twenty twenty five makeup people plus the

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twelve ghosts. So there'd be days where all twelve of

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us are in full makeup, all of our makeup people

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are with us, and then we're sitting there all day

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waiting for them because they're shooting scenes with Shannon Elizabeth

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or with the Kid, or with Matthew Lillard, and so

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we're waiting for them to finish so that we can

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go and shoot our stuff. And there was a couple

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days at least where they would come up to us

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after twelve thirteen hours of sitting there, sweating all the

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makeup off, and they'd say, oh, I'm sorry, guys, we're

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not going to get to you guys today. Yes, go

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back to the trailers, take all, come back the next

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day and all. Because you know you're waiting for someone.

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It was say why scheduled the regular actors and the

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monsters the ghosts on the same days. You know it's

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clearer The only time it makes sense, is if we're

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in the scene together, you know, right, and with the

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monsters a lot. I always get confused because in Scooby Doo,

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we're monsters. Yeah, thirteen ghosts, we're ghosts. I'm always calling

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my Scooby Doo character a ghost. I'm always calling this

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one a monster. You play so many of these type

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characters you lose track. I've been trolls, I've been ogres,

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I've been ghosts, I've been monsters. You know. Uh in

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uh or treat I was neither. I was just a

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big giant baby, you know. So I'm one of those

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people who has played a baby in diaper is more

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than once. So that's uh, have diaper will travel.

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Yeah, I think there's a plenty of older folks so

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to do with that.

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I won't mention anything that it runs with ID.

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So it was a It was an interesting film too,

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because the house that we we were in, I mean

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the very first time I showed up on set, I

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thought to myself that now this is some production design. This,

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I mean everything was real. I mean that the house

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was made up of like twenty five hundred panes of glass.

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I mean that it was like a two three story house.

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It was all in the studio. It was h We

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have a huge special effects studio. I think it was

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the largest in Canada at the time, maybe even North America.

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So they built this entire house in a studio. Even

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the shot where you see them drive up to the thing,

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it's just all green screen and the house I think

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that was even in the studio. And then at the

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end of the film when the house blows up, they

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actually blew the blow so they saved a few panels

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of glass and stuff for if they had to do

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reshoots or anything, and then they just blew it up.

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But I said to myself when I walked into that,

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I said, this is this if this should be nominated

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for an OSCAR for production design because they're such deep.

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That house was amazing and you usually don't see that

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kind of detail in a horror film.

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Well no, And then the other thing is is like,

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you know, the first time I can remember watching that movie,

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I'm like, this was like way ahead of its time

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with the way the cinematography was and all that.

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And because the the ghosts were all practical effects, the

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makeup wasn't. It wasn't you know, a big people running around,

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being chased by tennis balls and pretending to act like

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there's something there. And I truly believe that you can

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see it in the other actor's eyes when they're actually

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looking at something that's in front of them versus pretending

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to look at something. You know, all like all the

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Marvel movies, all you know, all of those big super

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hero movies, they're usually not looking at anything. They were

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usually just reacting to somebody holding a stick and saying, Okay,

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this is the this is the bad guy here.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, But when when a six foot six, six hundred

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pound guy with a bloody axe comes around the corner,

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there's no acting involved, Yeah, no matter what. And my

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favorite direction from Steve Beck on that film, because my

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character doesn't talk, and none of the ghosts really and

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none of them really communicate. But I he said to me, Okay,

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when when we first meet the Great Child, I want

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you to scream bloody murder, but don't open your mouth.

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And I thought that's an interesting direction. So if you watch,

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like when I come around the corner and I think

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it's him and the maid and they come around the

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corner and that's when I first come up, I'm now

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you see, because the first time you see me, I'm

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in my little cubicle with my mom and she's feeding me,

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and everybody thinks she's feeding me baby food, but she's

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actually scooping the puke off my bib, putting it in

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the jar, and then feeding me back the puke. But

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when you see that, I've been broken out of my cell,

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and you see me come around the corner with my mom,

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and I've got the bloody axe dragging next to my side.

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And now the first thing you hear is right right,

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And when you listen, you hear it, but you don't

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really know what you're hearing. It just sounds like some

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creepy sound effect. Right, it's actually me screaming with my

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mouth closed.

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No shit, I would have never thought of that.

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No, And because it's so funny, because thirteen Ghosts is

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so filled with practical effects. Yet Steve Beck comes from

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the world of visual effects. You know, he was like

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a visual effects supervisor who and it's almost like the

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first opportunity he had is like, I want to make

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a movie that has practical effects. Ye know, so many movies. Now,

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what you find, especially with the visual effects, is the

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you know, there's that feeling of danger is missing, like

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you know, when like I remember the first time I

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saw the one of the newer Spider Man movies and

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he's swinging in New York between buildings. It just felt

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like you're watching a cartoon. There was no sense of

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danger like in the old days. If it was a

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stunt guy on a rope. Yeah, and he's swinging and

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you can your your eyes tell you that that's a

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real guy. There's a sense there's a different level of

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attention there when you're running from a ghost that's actually there.

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You rather than you know nothing, You feel that, and

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I think the audience feels that too. It comes across

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and the performances. And I like to say that when

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you're acting with another actor there and you can see it,

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it's like their soul reflects in their eyes, in the

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other person's eyes, because you can tell by the way

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they're talking that they're actually interacting with somebody. And thirteen Ghosts,

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there was some interesting interactions because it all happened mostly

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on set because the Ghosts we had our We had

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a tent and everybody stayed in there and it had

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like because we had fans and everything to keep us

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all cool. So we never really interacted with the actors.

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We passed them on the way to the trailer and stuff,

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but as far as hanging out, going to craft servers,

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getting the sand with all that stuff, we basically lived

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in two separate worlds, so our only interaction with them

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was really as the ghosts on set. So when people

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always say it was it like working with Matthew Lillard,

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I worked with Dennis it's rafkin, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I didn't really work with Matthew Lillard. But the thing

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that's the one of the best trivia things from Thirteen

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Ghosts is that because the house was all glass, all

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the walls, all the floors, all the ceilings, everything was

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glass glass reflex. Well, when you're shooting a film, you

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can't have your actors surrounded by reflections, you know, because

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you don't want to see what you're not supposed to see.

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Right, Yeah, It's like, how do you keep the boom

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mics and everything out of the shot?

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Yeah, because you know, like when you're watching a movie

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and a car drives by, and you just see a

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car drive by, but if you go back and you

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and you freeze frame it shoot the camera. You can

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see a camera crews standing there, but it's because it's

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such a flash, it's no big deal. But with Thirteen Ghosts,

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they told the crew to wear black clothes. They told

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everybody to crouch down between takes. Then they like really

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backlit and over lit the house. So it was super

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hot in there because they had so many lights.

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Oh yeah, a greenhouse at that point.

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Yeah, and you got to turn all the fans off

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because the fans make noise when you're shooting. So uh,

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every so often, I like to call it my thirteen

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Ghost drinking game. Next time you watch the film, every

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time you see a crew member crouching in the background,

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in a corner, in a reflection or something, because every

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so often there's always that one crew member who forgot

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to wear his black shirt, so all of a sudden

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you see like a guy with a white shirt in

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the corner. But they're they're quick shots, but it's it's fun.

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It's like a drinking game. Every time you see a

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crew member in the in the reflection of the walls,

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take a drink.

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I think one of one of the underrated things that

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you don't see as much, especially like blu rays and stuff,

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nowadays are bloopers. I think he's hearing is bluise un

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extended visions, like they don't have any of that anymore.

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No, that's the frustrating thing with now that everything is

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on streaming. They streamed the movie and that's it. You know.

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I used to love get physical media. I used to

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love having I mean I remember back in laser discs

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and they used to have the Criterion Collection laser discs

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before they had them on anything else. And it was

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always about the special features. It was always about the commentary.

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It was all about the behind the scenes films, but

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also the bloopers and seeing, you know, basically seeing how

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the sausage is made, learning some of the secrets. I

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love that stuff. There's a really good one about one

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of Quentin Tarantino's movies. It's called Full Tilt Boogie and

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it's it's a documentary of What's it from Dustill Dawn

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And that's the movie by itself, is if any what

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he wants to know how to make a movie? Oh,

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I know, because the camera is it's not like some

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of these these ePK making of where everything feels promotional,

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everything feels like a commercial. Yeah, the thing I like

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about full tilt Boogie is it's just one of the

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crew members has a camera and he's just filming all

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the time. You know, when you see the actor talking

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with the director and they're having off the cuff moment,

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he's just standing there filming it and you really feel

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like a boy year you're on set. Yeah, you get

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to see what it's like to make a film. And

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anyone who's worked in film will tell you their best

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memories don't come from what you shot, it's the stuff

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in between.

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Oh yeah, I mean I don't honestly, I've only done

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one independent film, but it was an indie film that

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got played on reels dot com for a while called

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how I Dun't My Explory Friend's Body? And I'm only

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three p to and I have a bone condition. So

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I played a hit man in a wheelchair and some

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of the shit that went on in between cakes and

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like it was just mind boggling. You guys can google

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that and check it out. I'd love to get behind

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the camera again in the future, but it just hasn't

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panned out. Yeah, so that that was a fun experience

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for me. There was one scene in particular where I

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kind of surprised the homeowner and he's got a can

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of soda and he sprays it. Now, mind you, we

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were using the director's house and all of a sudden

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he busts up in the can of soda and it

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goes all over the ceiling. So he's like, my dad's

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gonna kill me by the time he gets home.

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Well, at least it was him that did it.

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Right, right, right, exactly.

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Be worse if you're one of the actors.

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And you're like, yeah, a lot of shit, but yeah, no,

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I got very lucky in twenty thirteen to be able

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to do that.

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That's a that's such a good that's such good casting.

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I love when you know you go against the grain. Yeah,

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I love, you know, especially a guy my size. Uh,

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it's so boring when you get another Every time I

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get an audition or I get a breakdown sent to

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me from my agents, and it's like, you know, big

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fat guys like, oh boring. It's like, I know what

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I look like, but you know I could play I

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always say to my agent and I say to my friends,

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you know, I can play a lawyer. I can play

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a doctor. You know, there's doctors and lawyers my size

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in the world. Ye, but it's almost as if like

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they have the costume first and then they got to

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find somebody to fit the costume.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and too many of those roles are cookie cutter

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roles anyways, especially in TV, it's like they have everything

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is based on stereotypes because with TV is so quick,

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you got to be able to see someone and know

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immediately right away what that guy is because you have

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these stereotypes in your head. So detectives always look like

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the same thing, cops always look like the same thing.

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You know, doctor will always have a white coat on,

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even though most doctors when you see them, don't have

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a white coat on. But our brains tell us a

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white coat means doctor, yeah, unless it means a scientist.

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And the way you know the difference is one has

469
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:26.799
a stethoscope around his neck, right right scope, he's a scientist.

470
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:31.960
A scientist and stethoscope, i'd be able to nervous. But yeah,

471
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:35.720
so you know, most people probably aren't aware. But you

472
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:41.599
started out originally from Canada and started your film career

473
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:42.960
just by a happenstance.

474
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:43.759
Tell us about that.

475
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:49.279
Yeah, I uh, I was basically one of those teenagers

476
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.359
who you know, got kicked out of the house and

477
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.240
was living on my own, and you know, had a

478
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.319
rough start, but I was working at a bar, I

479
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.119
was on student welfare, still going to high school. And

480
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.920
one day were sitting in a donut shop, me and

481
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.519
my friend, and he says, what do you want to

482
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:09.079
do today? He goes, Let's go to Vancouver. And you know,

483
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.400
Vancouver's on the other side of the country. I never

484
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.440
been there, don't know anything about it, but I had

485
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:17.119
nothing else to do. I said, okay, So we went

486
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.359
and grabbed our stuff, put it in a bag, jumped

487
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.000
on the thing on the bus. Four and a half

488
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.319
days later, we get to Vancouver and you know, it's

489
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.000
one of those things where you get off the bus

490
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:32.119
and it's like, okay, we're here, now what YEA so

491
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.440
good thing about being my sizes You can walk into

492
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.599
any bar and say you're looking for a job as

493
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.680
a doorman, and they you don't need a resume when

494
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.559
you're when you're my size, you are the resume, right,

495
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.079
So I was. I was able to get a job

496
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:51.160
that day, and then I got another job. So that

497
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:57.640
was in uh November of nineteen and eighty nine. By

498
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:04.240
nineteen ninety, I had gotten a job at a big

499
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.680
nightclub where they had like twenty five dorman on a night.

500
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.000
It was like three thousand seat nightclub. It was a

501
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.039
massive Yeah that's nightclub. Yeah. They had built it as

502
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:19.920
a theater night slash nightclub for the World Exposition in

503
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:23.599
nineteen eighty six. The World's Fair was in Vancouver in

504
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.640
nineteen eighty six, so they had some of the buildings

505
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.559
still left over, and that nightclub continued running as a nightclub.

506
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.559
So I was working there as a dorman and one

507
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.599
night I noticed these two women. Everywhere i'd go, I'd

508
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.400
see them like almost like they were watching me, stalking

509
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.960
me kind of thing in the crowd. And so finally

510
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.039
I walked over towards them because I thought maybe they

511
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.079
wanted to report something or they had, you know, something

512
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.559
to say. And the lady says to me, are you

513
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:58.680
in the film industry? I thought, a stupid question, is

514
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.480
that I'm working at a nightclub? No, she goes, well,

515
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:05.079
you have an interesting face. I think we could do

516
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:10.119
something with that face. I said, okay, and she the

517
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.680
one of the ladies hands me a card. I didn't

518
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:14.960
even look at the card. I just put it in

519
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.680
my pocket because in my brain, I'm going bunch of

520
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.839
ye just trying to pick me up whatever, and they

521
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:24.640
went on their way. I went home at the end

522
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.839
of the night through the card on my desk, and

523
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:28.880
a couple of weeks later, I'm cleaning up all my

524
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.440
paperwork and stuff and I come across this car and

525
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:35.680
I actually stop and read it. And they're talent agents,

526
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:39.240
and I thought, wow, well that's They're not going to

527
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.920
fake the card. It's not the movies, you know, people

528
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:46.680
don't make a fake card. So I thought, well, can't hurt,

529
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.119
you know, So I called them, went in for an interview,

530
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.960
and within the with before the week was up, I

531
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:58.519
was working on a short film. I was an extra,

532
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:00.799
but still I was working on a short film. And

533
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:02.880
by the end of the next week, I was shooting

534
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:07.759
my first commercial. And there was billboards, there were bus

535
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.640
shelter ads, there were ads on the back of the buses.

536
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.640
I was on all the TV channels and I thought, wow,

537
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:16.039
it's that easy.

538
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:17.119
Oh wow.

539
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:20.119
I went from working in a club now I'm a superstar.

540
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:22.640
My face is all over town. I'm this is the

541
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.000
way it is. Then, of course, the next the next

542
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.480
two jobs were once again doing you know, five dollars

543
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:34.880
an hour extra work on some TV shows, and I thought,

544
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:40.480
this is not for me. I that ruined me. I

545
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.000
had a taste of stardom right off the top. Now

546
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.599
too much, and it went to my head. But I

547
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.920
realized quickly that I need to be right up front.

548
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.000
I'm not made for background work. You know, when you're

549
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.920
when you're six foot six four over four hundred pounds,

550
00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:00.680
you know you're you're you can't blend into the background.

551
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.680
I kind of have the opposite problem. I'm happier, like

552
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.880
one hundred pounds son wet, So I know what you mean.

553
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.920
Though you can't just blend in. It doesn't work.

554
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:15.720
Yeah. And nineteen ninety two I had a job as

555
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.920
an extra on a movie called Stay Tuned with John Ritter.

556
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:20.880
It was a big film that came out that year.

557
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.119
It was it was like a parody of all the

558
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.359
TV shows and stuff that were on the air, but

559
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.480
they were made as if they were all in Hell,

560
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.599
and it was all the parodies were like the Hell version.

561
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.599
So it was like a Hell version of Driving This Daisy,

562
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.400
and it was like a Hell version of Wayne's World.

563
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:43.160
And so John Ridder gets sucked into this remote which

564
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.480
is hooked up to the satellite this he gets sucked

565
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:48.319
into it and he ends up going into these TVs.

566
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:51.039
He's like popping into all the different TV shows on

567
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:55.519
the network. And I think they decided that this show

568
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.480
had the potential of a sequel, so a few months

569
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.920
after they had shot here, came back up to do

570
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.480
some reshoots to basically keep the ending of the film

571
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:06.920
open ended. I think, so you know that if there

572
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.559
was going to be a sequel, there was a reason

573
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:13.000
for the sequel, which never happened in the end. But

574
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.240
one of the things that they were shooting, they were

575
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.759
shooting a scene at the at the shopping mall downtown

576
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:24.720
Vancouver and John Ritter there's a scene of him going

577
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:27.079
up an escalator and they had me on the he

578
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.519
was going up while I was on the downside coming down.

579
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:31.839
And we did it a few takes and then all

580
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.480
of a sudden, I see the director and John Ritter

581
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.839
walking towards me, and I thought, oh, that's not good.

582
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.920
I did something I do and the director goes, big guy,

583
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.319
we're going to have to move you. It seems that

584
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.119
you're casting a shadow on our star and we can't

585
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.759
have that. So they ended up moving me to the

586
00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.720
next row of escalators, which were basically at the back

587
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.079
of the mall, so I had to I was basically

588
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.599
a dot in the background going up and down, but

589
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:11.960
I wasn't creating his shadow anymore. So the fun thing

590
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.800
of it was, for the rest of the day, John Ritter,

591
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.880
every time you'd pass me, you go a shadow. And

592
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.159
so I didn't make the film, but it didn't matter

593
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.440
because that part of the film never ran. It never

594
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:27.599
made it into the film. But I had my own

595
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:29.760
little John Ritter story and I got to have him

596
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.880
calling me shadow all day. But that was that was

597
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.000
like the the nail and the Coffin in my extra

598
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.960
career when I realized I can't I'm either the I'm

599
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:44.000
either what they're pointing the camera at, or I can't

600
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.760
do it. Because I did one more extra work. You

601
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:51.559
know an actor named Tim Matheson. Yeah, he's been in

602
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.599
everything from U he was an Animal House and he's

603
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.400
been in tons of TV series. Well, he had done

604
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.519
a TV movie and I was hired at one of

605
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.239
the very first things. I was hired as an extra.

606
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.480
And this is when I had a really big I

607
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.400
mean I had an afro. It was like big afro

608
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.840
and I'm sitting into the courtroom and I'm one of

609
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.320
the audience members, one of the people in the in

610
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.599
the courtroom, and you see him come in the back

611
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.239
of the court and he's looking around where to sit.

612
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:23.559
He notices there's a blank seat. There's an empty seat

613
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:26.360
in front of me, so he walks over and sits down,

614
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.159
and when they cut to a close up, all of

615
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.760
a sudden, there's an old lady sitting behind him. And

616
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:33.599
then they cut to the wide shot and you see

617
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.840
me sitting back there. Because after they did the wide

618
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.599
establishing shot of him coming in all of a sudden,

619
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.840
then we started doing the close ups with him. All

620
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:43.480
of a sudden, I saw the director go over to

621
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.360
him and I see the one whispering again. It's basically

622
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.639
the same thing. They it was too distracting having this

623
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:55.039
big mutton head behind him with this big afro, so

624
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.719
they replaced me with a woman, but they kept me

625
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.280
in the wide shot, so it was just funny see

626
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:01.840
me popping in and out of the audience.

627
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.679
Yeah, there agains go on, No.

628
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.800
But that was another opportunity for me to really let

629
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:12.519
it sync in. That extra work is not for me,

630
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:16.719
I need to be the star, and I started, you know,

631
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:21.039
it started building towards that, and it was you know,

632
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:25.239
I was working part time doing acting and also you know,

633
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.599
any job to pay the bills and doing acting on

634
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:33.559
the side all till about ninety six, and then I

635
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.480
had done a short film. It was like a parody.

636
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.800
Well nowadays they call it a fan film, and we

637
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.840
had done in ninety four, we had done a fan

638
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:50.440
film called Alien IV question Mark and it was basically

639
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:56.239
Alien four hadn't been released yet. Alien three was as

640
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:59.119
far as that series of movies went. So this fan

641
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:03.239
film was asked the question what happened next? And so

642
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:06.400
we did like our own version of Alien four. It

643
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.400
was just a little half hour fan film that you

644
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.559
can find it on YouTube and it's on my YouTube channel.

645
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:16.760
And I had worked with another actor in that little

646
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.360
short film and it was this little thing. We shot

647
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:23.119
it on a on a home movie camera. Didn't expect

648
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.880
anyone ever see. It was basically the guys and his

649
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.000
friends were having some fun and they asked a few

650
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:31.239
actors they knew to be in it. Yeah, So not

651
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.320
thinking anything of it. A couple of years goes by

652
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:36.199
and I get a phone call for my friend, the

653
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.920
other actor who was in this movie with me, and

654
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.000
he says, remember that alien thing we did a couple

655
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.519
of years ago. I said yeah. He said, well, I

656
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.639
showed it to another actor friend of mine and he

657
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.800
started writing a feature script, and your character in this

658
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.280
little this little film stuck with him so much that

659
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:02.559
he basically based the lead character in his feature film

660
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.519
on you. Wow, because of the character you played in

661
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.519
the short film. So some guy that I've never met

662
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:13.800
has written a feature film and based the lead character

663
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.480
on me, And he says, are you willing to meet

664
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.400
him to see if you'd like to do the movie.

665
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.920
I was like, oh, duh, let me think about that. Yes,

666
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.280
So I got together with him, met him, and I

667
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:34.400
ended up getting getting to do that film. And so

668
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:39.639
that was the day before Okay, So that was ninety six,

669
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:43.280
the day before we're ready to shoot. The director calls

670
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:48.119
me and he says, well before that, that was where

671
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.639
I had to make my decision, which because this was

672
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.320
a feature film, they were going to be shooting for

673
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.119
nine days and I was the lead, so I was

674
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:57.559
gonna have to be there for every one of those

675
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.960
nine days. And the boss of the company I was

676
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.639
working as an office manager at a company that made

677
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:06.719
air filtration units, and he wasn't going to give me

678
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.840
nine days off. His office manager is not going to

679
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.360
take nine days off. He would let me take a

680
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.280
couple hours off here and there to go to an

681
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.480
audition because it was like my hobby, you know. But

682
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.360
once he knew that I was going to be on

683
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.960
a film for nine days, I had to realize that, Okay,

684
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:26.960
I either want to be an actor or I want

685
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.440
to be an office manager. This is the universe telling me,

686
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:33.320
here's your chance to make a decision. And I decided

687
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.000
this guy wrote a film for me. I want to

688
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.000
be an actor. I'm going to do this. So I

689
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.320
quit that job and that's when I pursued acting full time.

690
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:46.119
And that was in ninety six. And cut to the movie.

691
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.639
Now it's the day before we're getting ready to shoot

692
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:51.440
this movie, and the director caused me. He says, okay,

693
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.760
so we got everything set up. We're all good to go.

694
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.119
I just need your license number for the insurance and

695
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:02.679
then i'll see you tomorrow. And I said, ooh, I

696
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:05.880
don't have a license, and he says, did you read

697
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.920
the script? And of course I read this script. He says,

698
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.519
you're driving for like forty percent of the movie. I said, yeah,

699
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.159
it's a movie. I figured out, you know, i'd be

700
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.760
you'd be towing me, you know, or i'd be on

701
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.280
a green screen, or i'd be on a rear projection

702
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:24.199
or something. And he said, do you think we have

703
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.920
the budget for that? That's the budget of our entire film. Oh,

704
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.079
this is an independent thing that I'm paying for out

705
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:36.880
of my own savings. If you're driving, you're driving. Yeah,

706
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.599
I said, okay, excuse me, I said, leave it with me.

707
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.480
I jumped on the bus. I took the bus across

708
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:50.760
town to the to the DMV basically, and I went in,

709
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.119
got my my learner's permit. I ran back. I gave

710
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.599
him my learner's permit number, and now I had a

711
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:01.159
legal license. But I had to have somebody in the

712
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.800
car with me because I'm as a learner. You're only

713
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.559
allowed to be driving if you're getting lessons, right, Yeah,

714
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:12.679
So what we ended up doing was I'm driving this

715
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.320
big panel van in the movie, and because I only

716
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.039
had a learner's permit, they had the key grip would

717
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.159
be on his hands and knees on the floor. Next

718
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:27.679
to me hiding out a frame. I've got it lights

719
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.119
and a camera hanging off the front of his vehicle,

720
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.760
because you know that's normal for gods out learning how

721
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.360
to drive. Right, I'm having to do dialogue. I'm driving.

722
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.000
This guy is on his hands and knees hiding, but

723
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.079
we're trying to make it legal, right, Yeah. And so

724
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.400
we also we didn't have any radios, and this was

725
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.920
back in ninety six, so barely anybody had cell phones.

726
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.000
But there were two people that had cell phones. So

727
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:56.920
what they did was we had one shot where I'm

728
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:00.280
supposed to be coming down the highway, go up over

729
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.159
this over ramp, and then come towards the camera. So

730
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.719
they tell me on the phone, Okay, the camera guy

731
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.119
is going to be in the middle of the road.

732
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.840
He's gonna have his sticks. He's gonna have the sticks there,

733
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.480
he's gonna have the camera and he's gonna be pointing

734
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.599
at you, and we want you to drive and then

735
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.559
drive straight for him. And as you approach him, he's

736
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:25.719
gonna move out of the way and then stop. Okay.

737
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:30.239
So I come flying over the I come flying over

738
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.119
the over ramp, I come flying down the highway and

739
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:37.800
I'm like, Wow, he's not moving. Why isn't he moving?

740
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.480
He should be moving at any point, I'm getting really close.

741
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:45.039
Finally I get probably with ten feet of him at

742
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:48.840
going full highway speed, and he still hasn't moved. So

743
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.800
I hit the brakes as hard as I can. The

744
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.599
thing comes to a stop just as he grabs the

745
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.800
sticks and dives into the out into the ditch next

746
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:03.119
to the highway with the camera and everything. I stop.

747
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:08.000
Now the van that I'm using, which is a panel

748
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.320
van in the movie, is also we're using it as

749
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.320
our grip in our camera truck, right, so it's filled

750
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:19.480
with equipment. I hit the brakes. All the equipment from

751
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.800
the back of the thing slides forward and lands on

752
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.440
top of our key grip, who's if you remember it

753
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.000
is crouched on the floor, the licensed driver giving me lessons, right,

754
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.280
thank god.

755
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:32.840
And the.

756
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.280
Next day after we and they go what did you do?

757
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.639
I said, they told me to go twenty five feet

758
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:41.880
past the guy and they said no, no, no, we

759
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:45.000
set to stop twenty five feet in front of the guy.

760
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.440
So that game of telephone yeah at work. And then

761
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.000
the next day I'm supposed to drive this panel van

762
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.280
up to an intersection. I'm supposed to get to the intersection,

763
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.679
and I'm supposed to look left, look right, look right,

764
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.000
not know which way I want to go, and go ah,

765
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.320
and then do like a three point turn and go

766
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.280
back the way I came because I don't know which

767
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.719
way to turn right. Well, this panel van, somebody had

768
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.480
decided that the people they were renting the truck from,

769
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.199
they had decided to add ten feet to the back,

770
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.719
so you have the rear axle and then ten feet

771
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.800
beyond where the truck used to end. It continues on.

772
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.400
So this thing is all wobbly because it's so far

773
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:35.760
past where the axle is right, and it's so long

774
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.119
you can't even see the back of it in the

775
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:43.199
window the mirrors on the side. So I get to

776
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.960
set and the director's not there yet because the director

777
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:49.280
was also the other lead actor and he's wearing four

778
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.679
hours worth of prosthetic makeup every day, so he's not

779
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.639
even on set yet. He's getting his makeup done. So

780
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:59.000
we're just rehearsing the scene. ME driving up to the

781
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.440
thing to the stop sign. I look, can't figure out.

782
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:05.559
I go to back it up, and I proceed to

783
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:09.360
back it up directly into a telephone pole. Oh geez,

784
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.800
like full back speed back up, but probably twenty miles

785
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.559
an hour. Bam right into the telephone pole. And because

786
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:21.239
I'm not a driver, because I just started driving two

787
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:25.360
days ago, I panic. I don't know what to do.

788
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.119
So what do I do? I put the thing in neutral,

789
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:33.440
hit the gas and now it's just the tires are spitting.

790
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.239
What's going on? Just then I see a car driving pass.

791
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:41.199
It's the director coming to set with his makeup on,

792
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.119
and he sees this coming, so he jumps out of

793
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.440
the car, runs over, grabs me, throws me out of

794
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.760
the truck, gets the thing up on back onto the road.

795
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.519
Now the back has got a dent like the shape

796
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.639
of a telephone pole in the back bumper. So I

797
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.320
ended up having to pay the deduct the bolt on

798
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:06.880
the rental because well, it was my fault. I couldn't

799
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.519
see where, so I was basically like turning to where

800
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.360
I thought I needed to go and then backed up.

801
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.559
But I had clearly not gone back far enough. And

802
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.679
the saddest part of it all was that was in rehearsal.

803
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:26.199
I still had to shoot the scene. Yes, so the

804
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:29.199
very next take I've got to do it, but now

805
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:31.960
we've got to keep in mind not to do that again.

806
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:34.519
And it worked out and I ended up driving for

807
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.039
in the whole movie and everything was fine. But those

808
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.360
are the That was my opportunity to pursue acting full time.

809
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:45.920
But at the same time, that could have been the

810
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.119
end of my acting career. It has started and ended

811
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:53.639
right there. But thankfully we finished that and my career

812
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.800
took off and I got The very next thing I

813
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.760
did was a big studio film called Excess Baggage with

814
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.719
Alicia Silverstone, Christopher walking Minicio del Toro. We got to

815
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:08.159
do six days on that, and that was great because

816
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:13.079
I played a truck driver who comes to Alicia Silverstone's rescue.

817
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:19.000
She pretends she creates this big scene and she is

818
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.039
trying to escape from her uncle played by Christopher Walkin.

819
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.960
So she creates this big scene in this diner and

820
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:29.719
acts like he has been attacking her and abusing her,

821
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.880
and we like jump up, as a bunch of truck

822
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.800
drivers sitting there breakfast, we jump up and come to

823
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.760
her rescue and like, you know, who the hell do

824
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.960
you think you are? We're gonna know, how dare you

825
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.280
do this to this little girl? And but leading up

826
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.000
to that, it was us sitting there and they spent

827
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:51.760
we spent six days because it was a long scene

828
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.039
building up to the diner, in the diner, and then

829
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:57.320
out in front of the diner. So basically for six days,

830
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:03.760
I ate breakfast. You take after take after take after take,

831
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.800
I just ate breakfast. And the lady, the prop master,

832
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.760
I remember I was a guy. Second or third day,

833
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:14.760
he says, uh, Ernest, you know you don't have to

834
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:15.960
eat all the bacon.

835
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:20.880
Same as last words, right, And I.

836
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.840
Said to him when they yell action, I'm eating breakfast

837
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.079
and I like bacon. So all of a sudden he

838
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:36.159
comes up and he says, okay, well, you've eaten us

839
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.440
out of bacon, so we're gonna have to switch to

840
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.000
breakfast sausage. So once again, if you watch the film,

841
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.679
it's like, if you look in the background, bacon sausage,

842
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:54.480
bacon saudage, because it keeps cutting back and forth because

843
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:58.000
I had eaten all the bacon. And I learned from

844
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.880
that that if you're doing an eating in a movie,

845
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:05.840
just don't eat because you're going to be doing it

846
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:08.920
all day. I did an episode of The Outer Limits

847
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:13.039
with Colin mockery from whose line is it anyway? And

848
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:18.880
we're sitting at the show starts. We're in a fondue restaurant,

849
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.840
so everybody's got the big thing of fondue, the liquid cheese,

850
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.920
and they're dipping their bread in it and everything, and

851
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:29.639
both Colin and I decided we were looking around watching

852
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.719
the other actors getting ready to practicing how to use

853
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.559
the fondu and everything, we both decided, right then and there,

854
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.719
I'm not going to be eating cheese and bread all day,

855
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.920
no thank you. So we took a piece of bread,

856
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.599
we dipped it in the cheese, and then we put

857
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.400
it on our plate as if that was the last one.

858
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.519
And it was just one too many. So we never

859
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:56.599
continued and never ate another piece, never ate any for

860
00:49:56.639 --> 00:50:00.199
the rest of the day. Because after six days eating

861
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.880
breakfast and they keep coming up to you, they go,

862
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:07.039
here's your bucket, because they think, you know, like some actors,

863
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.159
you know, at the end of the take, the actor

864
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.599
turns around and pukes it all up into the spits

865
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.239
it all out because they don't actually eat it.

866
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:15.840
Right.

867
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:18.400
It was like, I don't have that makeup. If I

868
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:23.159
put food in my mouth, I'm eating it. I'm sorry,

869
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:25.840
but those are the little the little things. So that

870
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:31.159
nineteen ninety six is when I decided the universe is

871
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.360
gonna tell me that this is what's happening. Okay, I'm

872
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:38.679
going to listen, And everything moved forward. So I basically

873
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:43.039
didn't get into acting. Acting just came and got me right.

874
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:46.920
And I had mentioned you last time we spoke. That

875
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.280
was basically the same thing that happened when I was

876
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:56.280
a kid. I started school and kindergarten. I turn turns

877
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.960
out the school has a Christmas pageant every year and

878
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.239
they have the biggest kid in the school play Santa Claus.

879
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:06.360
And I was in kindergarten and a teacher approached me.

880
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.239
He says, would you like to play Santa Claus and

881
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:14.800
our Christmas pageant? I said, wow, Sure, had no idea

882
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:16.960
at the time that they were asking me because I

883
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.239
was the biggest kid in the school. I don't know.

884
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:22.199
I doubt you would get away with that nowadays, Yeah,

885
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.239
you know, you're the biggest kid in the school, You're

886
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:30.119
Santa Claus. Come with me. But it it got me

887
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.079
so intrigued by the fact that I was sitting on

888
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.559
stage in this throne. I was basically the star of

889
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.719
the thing, and I'm going to play with a bunch

890
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:43.639
of grade fours and grade fives, and I'm in kindergarten,

891
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.320
I'm the one that they're all looking up to and

892
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:50.440
all that. And once again I was forced into it

893
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.159
in school and then I got basically forced into it.

894
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:58.239
So you have you have to listen to the listen

895
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.360
to the universe. The universe we'll look out for you.

896
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.599
But you have to be open to those opportunities when

897
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.800
they come. You know, if I had said even in kindergarten,

898
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:11.679
I don't want to do that, who knows if I

899
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:15.079
were to pursue acting, right, But because I got the bug,

900
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:18.119
because of that, all of a sudden, I had to

901
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.199
be in everything. I was in all the school plays.

902
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:23.280
I was doing improvisation. I was in doing the assemblies,

903
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:28.360
the skits. Anytime there was an opportunity. They asked some

904
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.760
kids at the one school if anyone wanted to volunteer

905
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.679
to go to the old age homes and do like

906
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.960
improv and do some funny skits for them, because they

907
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:41.639
didn't have any many visitors, so we would go. What

908
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:45.840
the reality was, I just figured out, Hey, this is

909
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:48.960
a good way to get out of class. H I'll

910
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.480
just I'll go to the group home. And as it

911
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.360
turns out, I ended up having so much fun, and

912
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:58.159
it was so rewarding in the end, getting to see

913
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.599
the smiles on all these faces of these people who

914
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.880
don't get many visitors. But the reality of it was,

915
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.119
I just wanted to get out of class. Said same thing.

916
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:14.760
One year they had a Halloween costume contest and I

917
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.880
heard on the PA system they said that Halloween costume

918
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:22.519
the assembly will be in the cafeteria on stage at

919
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:26.239
two o'clock. And I thought, two o'clock. School's not over

920
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:30.760
till three point thirty. If you're in the Halloween costume

921
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:33.719
cod as you get out of class, and I'm looking

922
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.679
at myself and I'm just dressed. I didn't wear costume.

923
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.480
I have no costume. So I grabbed a piece of

924
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:43.800
paper and I wrote on the piece of paper undercover

925
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:48.719
cop and I stuck it on my shirt. But two

926
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:53.679
o'clock came. So when you look at the in our

927
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:57.519
yearbook for that year, there's the assembly on stage in

928
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:01.320
the cafeteria and everyone is in costumes, and then there's

929
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.880
some weird tall guy at the end just standing there

930
00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:08.159
with a piece of paper on his shirt there is

931
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.559
I'm an undercover cop. So yeah, I've always I've always

932
00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:16.440
been an actor at heart. Anyways, yea makes sense that

933
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.159
I would fall into this. Yep.

934
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.920
So for anybody that's aspiring to get into the business, obviously,

935
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.000
you know you kind of stumbled into it in a

936
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:30.400
certain aspects. But what's the biggest piece of advice you

937
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.440
would give somebody trying to even contemplate getting well.

938
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.440
First of all, the biggest thing is you don't have

939
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.719
to pay anybody. You know, you see all these things

940
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:44.880
like pay us this much to to join the agency,

941
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:48.480
or to take these modeling classes, or to take these photos,

942
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.679
or we're having this someone from Disney is coming to

943
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:58.440
town and is taking names and taking auditions, and it

944
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:02.159
only costs you one hundred and fifty. You don't need

945
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:05.760
to pay. Especially with you were saying with these there's

946
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:10.039
so many independent films, horror films, whatever your favorite genre

947
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.320
type of film is. Everyone is making a film. If

948
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:17.480
you join some of these horror groups on Facebook or

949
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:20.679
some of these independent film groups on Facebook, make friends,

950
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:25.760
because you'll figure out quickly that there's always somebody in

951
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.840
your town who's doing something and they're always going to

952
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:31.880
need someone to be a zombie or to be a

953
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.800
dead body, or to be something in the film. And

954
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.159
when you're starting out, when you're making films and you

955
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:43.920
have no money, you just have desire and interest. People

956
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:47.440
willing to work for free is your number one asset.

957
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:51.119
So you just have to make yourself known to these people.

958
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:53.559
And so I would say, if you want to get

959
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:55.920
into acting, first of all, just let people know you

960
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.239
want to get into acting, and if they need something,

961
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:03.880
make yourself available. Then if you have agencies in town,

962
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.320
you know, see if you can get an agent, you know,

963
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:09.000
it doesn't have to be a big agent, has as

964
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:14.360
someone who has access to what's happening in your town. Also,

965
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:16.599
if you want to take classes, if you don't have

966
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:21.360
any natural talent, if you haven't been you know, acting

967
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.480
the fool your whole life. But this is something you know.

968
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:26.760
People always say I don't have any acting experience, and

969
00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.960
I always say, do you leave your house, then you

970
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.760
have acting experience. Because the way you talk to the

971
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:35.719
lady at the bank is not the same way you

972
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.920
talk to the person at the grocery store or your

973
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:41.239
doctor or your mother or you know, we have versions

974
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:46.159
of ourselves that we use all day. That's acting. You know.

975
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:49.800
People try to make too much of it, you know,

976
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.000
they try to make it seem like it's this big

977
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.280
difficult thing when the reality is, you know, you've broken

978
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:57.519
the cookie jar, but you don't want your mom to

979
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:00.840
find out. What are you going to tell her? And

980
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:04.400
then you don't want to get caught, so you're gonna

981
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:08.679
tell her the best story possible. That's acting, you know,

982
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:12.519
It's it's the same thing. It's it's you know, we

983
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.559
we you know, And that's what that's the problem I

984
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.440
have is after this many years of being all these

985
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:23.320
different characters and all these different versions of myself, now

986
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:29.599
when someone says, be yourself, I don't know what myself

987
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.119
is anymore. I've got I've got over one hundred characters

988
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:35.519
that I've played, plus all the versions of myself that

989
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.440
I've introduced to people. When I you know, I if

990
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:40.719
I go to I don't like schmoozing and all that,

991
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:44.199
you know stuff. So if I go to a if

992
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.079
I go to a rap party, or if I go

993
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:51.320
to an history event, I can either be the quiet

994
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.119
guy in the corner who's shy, or get a few

995
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:57.679
drinks in me, or if it's something where I already

996
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:01.239
know all the people there, right right, So yeah, that

997
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:05.039
is the biggest thing is first acknowledging that you already

998
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.679
know how to act, You know how to do this.

999
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.159
It's just being able to turn it on when you

1000
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:15.679
have to. And if you have that ability, like we

1001
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:19.320
all do, then make yourself available, put yourself out there

1002
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:22.519
if somebody is looking for someone, you know. You can't

1003
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.199
expect people to come to you if they don't know

1004
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:30.519
that you're wanting to do this, right right. It's it's

1005
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.039
one thing. If you're already in the acting world, things

1006
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.239
are going to come to you naturally, like with this movie.

1007
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.280
Because I had done one movie, another movie came in,

1008
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:44.039
it came into play. So you have to let you

1009
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:48.679
let people know that you're interested. But my biggest thing

1010
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:53.159
is always just don't put money up, you know, if

1011
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:58.519
you want to work on a film. I know they

1012
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:03.039
a lot of these the Kickstarter and Indiegogo and these stuff.

1013
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:05.920
They do things like pay five hundred dollars for a

1014
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:11.000
walk on part. If you're really interested in producing a

1015
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:16.159
film and becoming a producer, then do that. If you

1016
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:18.920
want to walk on in a film, then do that,

1017
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:23.840
but paying five hundred dollars for the chance to walk on.

1018
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:28.519
You know, it's like you're now you're you're paying for

1019
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.159
your roles and and yeah, you're supporting indie film, but

1020
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:36.119
it's just the backwards way of supporting. It's like, you

1021
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:40.000
don't need to buy your roles. I know a lot

1022
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:43.519
of people who do that because I'm supporting indie film.

1023
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:47.480
But really, all you're doing is buying yourself a role

1024
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:51.800
y you know, and you know, if you're willing to

1025
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:57.800
volunteer your time, you're already buying into the film. You're

1026
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:01.239
giving them your time, you're giving them your effort. You know,

1027
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:05.760
you don't need to also pay for that privilege. So

1028
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.599
my biggest thing is always is don't pay for anything.

1029
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.840
There's enough scam artists out there. There's enough people come

1030
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.639
to town, you know, take my class and you can

1031
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.360
get into this or get into that, or this agent

1032
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:22.960
is looking to add to his roster. Come to his class.

1033
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.159
They're not going to teach you anything. All they're going

1034
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:27.719
to do is take your name and your money. Yeah,

1035
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:32.239
so just don't pay for things. There's enough opportunity out there.

1036
01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:37.280
Just make people aware of you and But at that

1037
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:41.039
same time, do like I did, do all the acting

1038
01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:45.119
stuff in school, do the assemblies, do the plays, do

1039
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:48.239
whatever you have a community theater in your town, do that.

1040
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:53.280
Like I said, make yourself known for the films people.

1041
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.559
The more stuff you do, no matter how small it is,

1042
01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.519
the people in the know will see it. We'll hear

1043
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:03.280
about it, and they'll know that you're someone that they

1044
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:06.119
can they can act, you know that they can rely

1045
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:12.079
on for acting. But yeah, just don't I hear all

1046
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.920
these horror stories about people who my child had to

1047
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:17.119
pay for this class and had to get these photos

1048
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:19.320
and had to get this to this. No, you don't

1049
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:23.880
have to do any of that, you know, just pick

1050
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:26.840
every opportunity you have and act on it.

1051
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:29.000
Absolutely No.

1052
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:31.519
I tell people all the time that's that's how I've

1053
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:33.960
gotten as far as I have. And what I do

1054
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:38.119
is just taking chances and putting myself out there.

1055
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:40.000
And anybody can do anything they want.

1056
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:43.079
You just gotta have a good citic honys, whether it's

1057
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:47.199
literal or figure. Yeah, and just take a shot. You

1058
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:48.639
can't make shots that you don't take.

1059
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:51.480
It's like people say, well, one day I'd love to

1060
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:55.119
have a podcast. Do you have a camera. Do you

1061
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:58.519
have a microphone there? You can have a podcast. You know,

1062
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:00.920
you don't have to overthink it right right, You know

1063
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:04.960
you may not have an audience, but you don't. You

1064
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.719
never have an audience if you don't do something. You know,

1065
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:11.320
you got to do the something first, exactly. But it

1066
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.039
ain't that hard. It's today, like with movies now. When

1067
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:17.239
we started that film in ninety six, that was back

1068
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.079
when you had to do film, you know, sixteen millimeter

1069
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:23.639
film and you had to have the big flatbed editing

1070
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:31.159
bay and everything was was nonlinear and everything was you know,

1071
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:34.239
everything was what's the word I'm thinking of analog? There

1072
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:37.320
was nothing digital, right, so you had to have a

1073
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:41.519
lot of money up front to make film. Now everybody's

1074
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:44.800
got a phone in their hand that has better cameras

1075
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.239
in it than most cameras that people used to have

1076
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:50.559
with their you know, their handicams and stuff. Yeah, so

1077
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:53.440
you just have If you have a story to tell,

1078
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:58.800
you have many opportunities to tell it. Nowadays, the problem

1079
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:02.840
is is getting it seen, and I think the best

1080
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:08.480
place to do that is YouTube. You know a lot

1081
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:11.920
of if you have the if you have the ability

1082
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:14.920
to do your own marketing, if you have the If

1083
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.599
people are shrewd enough and they know what they're doing

1084
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:22.679
on social media and they know the different sites, and

1085
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:24.920
they know how to advertise themselves and they know how

1086
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:28.880
to brand themselves, all you got to do is take

1087
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:31.719
what you've learned there and do the same with your

1088
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.480
own movie. And basically, all you have to do is

1089
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:38.440
have your movie somewhere that you can direct people to.

1090
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:41.079
It doesn't need to be on TV, it doesn't need

1091
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:42.639
to be on Plex, it doesn't need to be on

1092
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:46.920
any of these fancy streamers. Everybody has access to YouTube,

1093
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:50.639
and now most people have YouTube on their TVs, Roku

1094
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:55.480
or whatever. So you're still watching it on TV. Yeah,

1095
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:58.039
you know, you just have to You have to make

1096
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:01.119
it and then put it up and then do the

1097
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:02.719
Then you have to do the leg work. You got

1098
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:04.639
to let people know about it. You got to you

1099
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:06.239
got to talk to people, You got to put send

1100
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:09.119
out press releases and all that stuff. But if you

1101
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:11.800
want to make a movie, it ain't that hard anymore.

1102
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:16.639
It's it's not now. If you want to get paid.

1103
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:18.719
That's an older story.

1104
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:23.360
That's a whole story. You know, I've produced four films

1105
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:25.079
and I'm still waiting for some pay.

1106
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:25.760
Yeah.

1107
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:30.159
Uh, it's easy enough to put your own money into something, right,

1108
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.320
it's enough. It's hard enough to get someone to to

1109
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:36.840
give you money for it. Yeah, that's a whole other thing.

1110
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:39.519
And I haven't I haven't gotten there yet. I'm I'm

1111
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:41.719
just happy that someone pays me to do this as

1112
01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:45.840
a job acting because when I was a kid, if

1113
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:48.840
I had known that this was an option, you know,

1114
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:52.840
movies were done in Hollywood. TV was done somewhere else.

1115
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:56.039
You know, it's I don't know. When I was a kid,

1116
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:58.480
I'd look at a TV and those people lived in

1117
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.880
the TV for as much as I I knew. Yeah, yeah,

1118
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.079
and the thought of doing that for a living, well,

1119
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:06.639
how do you how do you get into the TV?

1120
01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:10.960
You know? Stuff is done somewhere else. You don't realize,

1121
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:14.400
especially now with what we were just talking about, with

1122
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:18.079
everyone having a camera and everyone having access to stuff.

1123
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:23.840
Films and TV are being made everywhere now, not to

1124
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:28.039
mention that there's ten thousand venues for them. You know,

1125
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:32.480
there's like how many streamers, how many different channels.

1126
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:34.920
Possibilities are endless now and each.

1127
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:39.280
One of them needs product, you know, so the opportunity

1128
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:43.400
to do stuff is getting bigger and bigger. Just don't

1129
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:47.000
expect to become a millionaire from doing it. That's the

1130
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.639
only problem is that the more they stretch it out,

1131
01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:54.400
the more it gets thinned out, and there's more opportunity

1132
01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:57.880
there's the money also gets right out right.

1133
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:04.119
Yeah, it's still the independent music scene that I'm in. Yeah,

1134
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.360
you know, like you said, you got people in there paying,

1135
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.440
you know, to either sell tickets ahead of time or

1136
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:15.840
you know, linking of with the wrong people and that

1137
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:16.519
sort of thing.

1138
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:17.760
So I see that all the time.

1139
01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:21.840
And yeah, and everyone can make music now with their

1140
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:26.559
computers and have you at home, but in the end

1141
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.599
it's they still got to know about you. So either

1142
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:34.320
you're you're you're doing stuff live and you're you're there.

1143
01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:38.039
The amount of people who have created careers not because

1144
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:42.559
they had a record contract, not because even because they

1145
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:45.840
had an album. They were just good live and they

1146
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.239
toured a lot. They didn't make a lot of money,

1147
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:54.280
but eventually, especially in cities, there are people that are

1148
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:59.119
like massively city famous. Yeah, you know, within their town,

1149
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:03.679
everyone knows them and everyone goes to see them. It's

1150
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:06.880
just what the internet now has done is taking those

1151
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:09.519
people that used to be city famous, and all of

1152
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.760
a sudden, now you've got a fan in Bulgaria because

1153
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:16.960
you saw your thing on band camp or whatever. That's

1154
01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:20.159
the good thing about the Internet is that you can stretch.

1155
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:23.840
The world is global now, you know, the global village

1156
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:28.079
system with the with the Internet. That's the good thing.

1157
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:31.000
Especially like we were saying about joining horror groups and

1158
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:34.639
stuff before, you had no idea how to find like

1159
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:38.760
minded people, especially before the Internet. You know, unless you

1160
01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:41.199
were part of a fan club or part of a

1161
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.480
newsletter or something. You know, you just figured you were

1162
01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:48.000
on your own. You were your own kind of person. Nobody,

1163
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:50.519
nobody had the same kind of interest as you. You know,

1164
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:53.239
people used to buy fangoria if they were into horror

1165
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:56.559
or if they were into makeup and stuff, because that

1166
01:07:56.679 --> 01:07:59.440
was their only connection. That was the only way. When

1167
01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:00.840
I was a kid, that was the only way I

1168
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:04.360
knew about independent horror or all of the low budgets

1169
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:08.440
schlocky stuff that was out there. I didn't see it anywhere.

1170
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:12.320
It wasn't advertised anywhere, it wasn't sold anywhere. I remember

1171
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.440
in eighty four, eighty three, eighty two, the very first

1172
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:19.000
time I went to a video store and it was

1173
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.359
a big deal. First of all, to be able to

1174
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:25.720
watch a movie that wasn't on TV was blew my mind.

1175
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:28.760
But then going to the video store and walking around,

1176
01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:32.079
it's like, I've never heard of half of these movies. Yeah,

1177
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.800
because they were all straight to DVD, straight to video,

1178
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state to VHS. And that's when you realized, Wow, there's

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a if people are paying attention, there's a market for this.

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And I think Trauma, for example, caught onto that real early.

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01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:54.840
It's like with the with VHS and with rentals especially,

1182
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:58.479
there's a market for our stuff out there. We don't

1183
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:01.199
need to have millions of We just need to have

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01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:04.359
interest in people. And now that we have video stores,

1185
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:08.960
we have somewhere to direct them to. And I thought,

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like I saw remember the first time I saw a

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movie called Doctor Butcher MD or I think the other

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01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:19.279
name for it is Cannibal Holocaust, and it's one of

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01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:22.479
the most graphic movies I've ever seen. But because it

1190
01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:26.039
was unrated, and because as a kid, your dad would say,

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01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.319
go to the video store and write whatever you want,

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01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:31.079
we'll watch that tonight. And I remember picking Doctor Butcher

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01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:32.960
MD because I thought the title was cool.

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01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:34.119
Yeah, And next thing.

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01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:37.479
I know. They're cannibalizing people and ripping them open and

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01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:40.119
sucking on there intestines. And my dad's looking at me like,

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01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:41.840
that's the last time you're chat.

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01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:44.359
Yeah.

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I can't go through that filter again. So before we

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wrap up here, I just want to say that today's

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01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:56.279
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more details. So, Ernest, before we wrap up here, do

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01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.199
you have any thing going on right now they want

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01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:14.000
people to know about.

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01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:17.560
Yeah, I did a film for some friends. It's called

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01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:23.880
Writing Shotgun. It's directed by Dion Coplan and produced by

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01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:28.640
Louis Weird. They are some up and coming filmmakers. They

1211
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:31.239
had Cold Wind blowing with a horror film that they

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01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:33.199
had out in the on the festival circuit a couple

1213
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:36.239
of years ago, and they asked me to do a

1214
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:39.239
cameo in it. So that's something that's coming up. There's

1215
01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:42.680
the Frozen Dead graphic novel that I'm part of their

1216
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:46.199
twenty fifth anniversary and they asked me to get star

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01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.520
in it. So they have a few panels where I

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01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:52.199
appear as see Ernst Tars and they even allowed me

1219
01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:55.760
to write my own dialogue as far as they said,

1220
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:58.520
here's the situation, this is what's happening. How would you

1221
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:01.760
how would you reply to this? How would you answer it?

1222
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.039
And I told them And so now I'm in the

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01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:09.800
comic and you can check that out on Facebook. There's

1224
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:14.079
the Frozen Dead Facebook group. And I did a video

1225
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:19.000
for a band called Melody Whore W H O R E.

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01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:22.600
One word and it's called Thickest Thieves and you can

1227
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:25.760
find that on YouTube. I'm the star of it, me

1228
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:29.439
and the singer Mellow who's in it as well, and

1229
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.600
it's a pretty crazy out there music video. I'm like

1230
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.359
a My character's name is Deviant Ringleader and I'm basically

1231
01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:38.439
someone who has captured her and put her in a

1232
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:43.920
cage and trying to trying to suck her soul. So yeah,

1233
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:48.159
it's Thickest Thieves and Melody Whore and you can find

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01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:52.079
that on YouTube. And that's basically. But I got another

1235
01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:54.680
video coming out soon for a guy named Nobel Son.

1236
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:57.119
That's the name of the band, but there's no date

1237
01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:00.960
on that one yet. But it's been it's been slow,

1238
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:04.840
So I've been doing music videos anyone who wants this

1239
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:09.960
big glut in their videos. But the biggest thing I

1240
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:13.520
have to promote is on my Facebook page see arnstearth

1241
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:19.399
Cehearth at Facebook is I have photos that I sell

1242
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:22.199
at conventions. A lot of people can't make it to

1243
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:24.920
conventions or they just can't hook up with you, so

1244
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.359
they can come to my Facebook page and pin to

1245
01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:30.680
the top. I have all the information regarding what prints

1246
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:33.880
I have available from what movies Trick or Try, Scooby Doo,

1247
01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:40.479
two thirteen, Goes Dead Rising, Watchtower X Files, Once upon

1248
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:43.720
a Time. Plus I have about twenty or thirty custom

1249
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:47.279
prints from other movies because I've done over one hundred DreamCatcher,

1250
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:49.399
you know. So there's lots of films that people know

1251
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:52.960
me from and I sell them for thirty dollars Canadian

1252
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.079
and I'll sign them however you want and I'll ship

1253
01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:57.840
them out. That's all included, and this way it keeps

1254
01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:01.159
me in touch with people. So's the biggest thing I'm

1255
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.479
promoting is my photos on my page.

1256
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:08.239
Awesome, well, Ernest, I appreciate your time and coming along

1257
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.960
and doing this again with me now that you can

1258
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.159
survive the technological problem.

1259
01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:16.039
Technology makes everything easier.

1260
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:20.600
Oh yeah, sure it does. All right, folks, we'll see

1261
01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:21.359
you next time.

1262
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:22.920
Okay, thanks a lot,